Info on this oil, Pennzoil with start stop protection.
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I think Castrol refreshing labels forced the market to change up
Start/stop.
UPS policy is to shut the engine off every time the driver is out of the truck.
I remember 20 yrs ago when we were working with UPS they changed the starter on their diesels at each oil change (the replacements were all rebuilts). It was deemed cheaper than having to tow their trucks in when a starter failed on the route. Not sure if they still do this or not.
Toyota with start/stop now gives you 384,000 starts before they throw a code and tell you to replace the starter.
UPS policy is to shut the engine off every time the driver is out of the truck.
I remember 20 yrs ago when we were working with UPS they changed the starter on their diesels at each oil change (the replacements were all rebuilts). It was deemed cheaper than having to tow their trucks in when a starter failed on the route. Not sure if they still do this or not.
Toyota with start/stop now gives you 384,000 starts before they throw a code and tell you to replace the starter.
What?!?! I want my oil to be continuously protecting, dadgummit! CAFE strikes again!
Pennzoil Start/Stop Protection 0W-20
https://www.shell-livedocs.com/data/published/en/79fa8592-b838-4d24-a733-ea60a48ea429.pdf TDS is from May 2019 so this is a relatively recent product. Does anyone want to speculate on what makes an oil more suitable for start/stop applications?
bobistheoilguy.com
Pennzoil Launches Four New Motor Oils
https://www.enginebuildermag.com/2019/09/pennzoil-launches-four-new-motor-oils/ Queue all the "will my engine blow up if I use X over X type" threads
bobistheoilguy.com
Yawn...
To me start-stop means higher fuel dilution.
Fuel dilution is countered by more viscosity.
I bet it's a 20 weight that's on the very edge of being a 20 weight spec which I think is like 9.7cSt at 100c.
Fuel dilution is countered by more viscosity.
I bet it's a 20 weight that's on the very edge of being a 20 weight spec which I think is like 9.7cSt at 100c.
Actually using start stop usually reduces oil dilution due to less idle time…
Start stop engines seem to have the worst fuel dilution. That start stop function starts with a blast of fuel, stopping allows the piston tops and cylinder bores to cool off, overall makes hitting operating temperature take longer, may not be able hit operating temperature on shorter trips at all. Direct injection makes it even worse.
Yeah I used to think stop start or having a hybrid would make oil last longer. Nope.
During winter I constantly run our at in sport mode where it doesn't start/stop most of the time.
Is anyone gonna buy a quart and do VOA?
Not unless it's cheaper and easier to get than PP and available in 5w-30.
Exactly! For oil burner I’d use filtered used oil or some 15w40; but I have a stash
I utilize start/stop on my DI engine and my report showed <1% fuel dilution after about 4,000 miles
A lot of us with DI stop start engines are having to change oil because of fuel dilution. If I can take the car on a nice little road trip at 75mph for about an hour each way that will cook nearly all of the fuel out of the oil. You have low fuel dilution not because of DI with auto start/stop design, it's some other factor like ideal amounts of highway driving, warm climate, ect.
I can get our car to go from stinky levels of fuel in the oil to no smell and testing less at a half percent fuel in oil after a 5hr drive at 75mph.