I need 2 stroke oil and ratio advice

[Doublehaul]

Hey Guys,

Ive got a number of 2 strokes

86 Johnson 15hp
Echo line trimmer
Echo Timberwolf 590 chain saw
Echo Backpack blower (biggest they make)

All call for 50:1 except the outboard with calls for 100:1 (I run 50 to 1 in it though)

Sadly ive never given much though to the 2 stroke oil i used. I need some solid advice for an absolute top tier oil i can use for all of them. Im also thinking of going to 40 to 1 in all of them as its an easy 3oz per gallon mix

Thoughts? I know very little about 2 stroke tech

 

[SwampSurvivor]

Is the outboard water cooled (via lake water?) --- if so it should use a TCW3 oil. The OPE has to use 2 stroke oil for aircooled engines.

I've never experienced problems running TCw3 in air cooled 2 strokes , but I have been advised that it's a bad idea.

With that said, I'd be more concerned with the fuel than the oil. I run all of my 2 strokes (single stage snowblower, string trimmer, little genrator) on ethanol free gas. Luckily it's readily available for me.

For oil? supertech synthetic 2 stroke oil.

 

[Chris142]

Use the echo brand oil in the yard stuff and tcw3 oil in the boat.

 

[Doublehaul]

All of the fuel ive ever run though all equipment is rec fuel...or ethanol free.

Any specific brands other than echo?

 

[Linctex]

Originally Posted by Doublehaul

Any specific brands other than echo?


Stihl, Husqvarna, Jonsereds, Echo... even Poulan - it's all good oil!
I buy the little plastic shrink wrapped "6-pack" of bottles

SuperTech TC-W3 is a nearly impossible-to-beat value.

 

[philipp10]

Originally Posted by Doublehaul
Hey Guys,

Ive got a number of 2 strokes

86 Johnson 15hp
Echo line trimmer
Echo Timberwolf 590 chain saw
Echo Backpack blower (biggest they make)

All call for 50:1 except the outboard with calls for 100:1 (I run 50 to 1 in it though)

Sadly ive never given much though to the 2 stroke oil i used. I need some solid advice for an absolute top tier oil i can use for all of them. Im also thinking of going to 40 to 1 in all of them as its an easy 3oz per gallon mix

Thoughts? I know very little about 2 stroke tech

I don't understand why you want to run them rich on oil. Don't you trust the manufacturers recommendations?

 

[bubbatime]

The boat uses TCW3 oil. This is formulated to run at much cooler temperature than the air cooled small engines. Plus it has a biodegradable aspect to it, since it is exhausted into the water and ends up in the water. Use a decent TCW oil in the boat.

The Echo small engines use JASO-FD rated air cooled small engine oils. If you don't use much of this gas per year, a half gallon of less, I HIGHLY recommend that you just buy the TruFuel premix 50:1 cans at home depot. They are a smart buy for many reasons. Home Depot sells a store brand version of this premix fuel for $1 less per can, and it is also excellent.

 

[Fastzntn]

For my Echo stuff (trimmer, blower, CS-590 saw) I use only the Echo premix fuel. It has worked great. I buy at Home Depot when the stash is getting low.

 

[jeepman3071]

I've serviced/repaired small engines as a side business going on 15 years now. I've never had any issues running a name brand oil at 50:1 in my machines and neither have any of my customers. Some of the commercial guys even run Amsoil Saber at 100:1 without problems. Whenever there have been breakdowns warranting replacement of the machine it has been due to issues besides the engine. Personally I run the Husqvarna 50:1 semi-synthetic oil because I get a deal on it locally, but anything that is a name brand oil will do just fine.

 

[Clayslayer]

I have a quart of Amsoil Saber that I've been using for quite a few years at 50:1. Amsoil loves to advertise that you can run it at 100:1 but I stay with the 50:1 because I believe that my cursory 10 minute Google search has provided me more valuable information than their team of engineers with Ph.Ds who have decades of education, training, and experience. I have a chain saw, leaf blower, and string trimmer that I use it in (all Stihl). Since it's all just homeowner duty I don't go through a gallon a year between the three of them unless it's a firewood cutting marathon. In that case I can use more fuel in a day with the chain saw than I can in a year with the other stuff. I mix my fuel in a 1L Mountain Dew bottle. Been using it for over 5 years.... 20mL in, fill with gas, shake. Perfect 50:1. Plus the plastic in Pepsi bottles is immune to petroleum.

 

[Cujet]

I've been using Castrol TTs in my fairly extensive collection of air cooled yard tools, with great results (and high end 2 stroke dirt bikes) . I feel it's a good replacement for the highly prized Mobil 1 MX2t. I get no port plugging, no significant carbon buildup, no piston scoring and quite simply, no problems. It's an FD and EGD rated oil too.

https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-Power-TTS-100-Synthetic/dp/B001KOHX0U

 

[Kamele0N]

Aint TTS made of degumed castor oil?