Hyundai/Kia Recalls 1.4 Million Vehicles

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Originally Posted By: Nick1994
What a terrible article. The Santa Fe had 3 different engines, are they all affected?


It says Santa Fe Sport, which comes as a 4 cylinder 2.0T or 2.4. The V6 engine is not a Sport model. Basically any Kia or Hyundai with a 2.0T or 2.4 engine.
 
They also extended the engine warranty to 10yr/120K miles for ALL owners (1st, 2nd, etc.) to cover it and will reimburse owners that had their engines replaced on their own dime. They resolved the issue in 2014.
 
They say debris from the manufacturing process is to blame. It makes you wonder just how well they clean up the blocks, etc. before they assembled them. Reading here sometimes you'd almost believe it's a sterile environment.
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From the sound of it, they resolved the issue going forward.
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
They say debris from the manufacturing process is to blame. It makes you wonder just how well they clean up the blocks, etc. before they assembled them. Reading here sometimes you'd almost believe it's a sterile environment.
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From the sound of it, they resolved the issue going forward.


It makes a compelling case for an early factory fill change.
 
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This is actually a second recall. The first one they just plugged a computer into the obd port and listened to the knock sensor. If it was good they stuck an orange dipstick in the place of the yellow one and sent you on the way. A letter came later as above for a longer warranty. If it was bad they offered short block or highly devalued buyback. This one is for the same issue but wont know till approval and such till may. Mine seems to be ok except it doesnt seem to hold 6th gear lockup on hills like it used to...
 
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Deciphering the NHSTA report, it seems these are engines made in the Alabama facility. Wasn't there a similar issue a few years back with this same facility?

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2017/RCLRPT-17V224-2355.PDF?_ga=1.205954515.1592846303.1491557158


It's the same issue, it only affected Hyundai first then Kia. Hyundai got out in front on this issue last summer. Kia sent out warranty extension letters in the fall (I got one) and has now gone to the same process as Hyundai did with engine testing (using a laptop and a microphone to listen for rod knock), orange dipstick for more oil in the sump (5.2qt vs 4.86qt), etc. Even when an engine passes the bogus "rod knock" test, the engine is still warrantied until/unless it dies (before the 10yr/120K mile extension expires). There are some reports that even if the miles exceeds the 120K mile limit, the free replacement is valid as long as the recall campaign is active (likely to take a couple of years). That is even better news for those affected. During the campaign, they are not even asking for maintenance records (oil/filter changes) like they used to. Previously, if they asked for records and you had them, you would be good to do. Without them, they pulled the valve cover and if ANY sludge was present, the claim was denied or extensively reviewed since the dumb customer did not change the oil like they should have. Now, with the campaign starting up, they just replace the engine (normally a long block, sometimes a short block) to the current production 2015 status (last MY for the 274HP 2.0T) which had the corrected machining done, improved rods and there are reports of an improved piston dish design as well.
 
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Pretty interesting, I have the orange dipstick on a 2011 2.4L sonata with 45k miles.

No knocking at all, I change oil every 3750 miles with 5w30 or 10w30.
 
Originally Posted By: JustinH
Pretty interesting, I have the orange dipstick on a 2011 2.4L sonata with 45k miles.

No knocking at all, I change oil every 3750 miles with 5w30 or 10w30.



I have the yellow one but put 5qts in the sump anyway. Also change under severe service schedule. Knock-on-wood, not a single issue so far.
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
They say debris from the manufacturing process is to blame. It makes you wonder just how well they clean up the blocks, etc. before they assembled them. Reading here sometimes you'd almost believe it's a sterile environment.
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From the sound of it, they resolved the issue going forward.


+1, was thinking the same thing. Then again, what do they recommend as a first oci?
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
They say debris from the manufacturing process is to blame. It makes you wonder just how well they clean up the blocks, etc. before they assembled them. Reading here sometimes you'd almost believe it's a sterile environment.
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From the sound of it, they resolved the issue going forward.


+1, was thinking the same thing. Then again, what do they recommend as a first oci?


3K if memory serves. I did mine at 2K with M1 0W-40 oil.
 
I've always been leery of Hyundai/Kia, and this kind of thing proves me right.

If you can't get the engine sorted what else are you failing at?

If it were me I'd rather have a VW TDI. Other than having higher emissions, the cars were perfectly fine to continuing driving for many hundred of thousands of miles without trouble.
 
Originally Posted By: Dr_Who
I've always been leery of Hyundai/Kia, and this kind of thing proves me right.

If you can't get the engine sorted what else are you failing at?

If it were me I'd rather have a VW TDI. Other than having higher emissions, the cars were perfectly fine to continuing driving for many hundred of thousands of miles without trouble.


On what planet does this happen?
 
Originally Posted By: xshoex
Glad i have the 3.5


Glad I don't own or likely will own any of their products. Still scarred by college girlfriends 1980's excel. We left it in the Sumner tunnel.
 
Originally Posted By: Dr_Who
I've always been leery of Hyundai/Kia, and this kind of thing proves me right.

If you can't get the engine sorted what else are you failing at?

If it were me I'd rather have a VW TDI. Other than having higher emissions, the cars were perfectly fine to continuing driving for many hundred of thousands of miles without trouble.
Been there, done that, I'd bet every penny I've got my Hyundai will cost MUCH less than my TDI did to keep on the road.
 
Originally Posted By: Matagonka
Finally! It took them a while.

For those who don't know, Hyundai & Kia engines have issues with oil flowing to the rods, causing them to break and cause engine failure.

http://fox6now.com/2017/04/07/hyundai-and-kia-recall-1-2-million-cars-for-possible-engine-failure/


The rods don't break. These motors would spin a bearing, which could lead to rod knock from excessive clearance and eventually a bent/kicked out rod if it locked up.

Rods stay clean. Rod mains, no.
 
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