JHZR2
Staff member
Quit being so logical!quote:
Originally posted by USAFREOD:
Not only the cost of battery replacement, but NO ONE is discussing the HAZWASTE implications of massive battery disposal. I am sure these are the sealed, RG-type batteries that are very hard to recycle.
Just like the so-called "hydrogen economy", the devil is in the details and either people aren't educated sufficiently to discuss them (in this 30-second sound-bite / Paris Hilton culture), or has a hidden agenda to remove these issues from discussion entirely...
To the best of my knowledge, most hybrids use ultracapacitors (very large capacitors) to store their energy during regenerative braking instead of a bank of batteries. Capacitors contain dry components and are very recyclable. They also last MUCH longer than battery technologies and can be full-cycle charged and drained many thousands of times. A single ultracapacitor is cheaper than a set of batteries used in the electric cars.quote:
Originally posted by pajim17057:
I wonder how much it will cost to replace the batterys when they wear out? I bet it will cut into the any fuel saveings a bit. I don't think hybrids are all they are cracked up to be.
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Originally posted by USAFREOD:
Not only the cost of battery replacement, but NO ONE is discussing the HAZWASTE implications of massive battery disposal. I am sure these are the sealed, RG-type batteries that are very hard to recycle.
Just like the so-called "hydrogen economy", the devil is in the details and either people aren't educated sufficiently to discuss them (in this 30-second sound-bite / Paris Hilton culture), or has a hidden agenda to remove these issues from discussion entirely...
I agree completely, and my brother resembles that remark totally.quote:
Originally posted by MADMIKE:
Hybrids are another over-hyped waste of money. The gas savings will never eclipse the additional initial cost and subsequent battery and related component repair and replacements costs compared to a standard 4 cylinder econobox. The Greenies are such suckers for ideas that sound nice in theory but fall far short in actuality. The hydrogen fuel cell is another idea that is likely unfeasible (at least in our lifetimes) but of course the Greenies are touting it enthusiastically. (Idealism vs. Realism)
The Mini, with the automatic, gets 32MPG highway.quote:
Originally posted by eljefino:
the Mini