Chrysler is using 5w20.Its the ONLY oil they want you to use in the V8 Charger.quote:
Originally posted by tenderloin:
With Ford and Honda already onboard. Chrysler not far behind and Europe in the wings....it won't be long.
Chrysler is using 5w20.Its the ONLY oil they want you to use in the V8 Charger.quote:
Originally posted by tenderloin:
With Ford and Honda already onboard. Chrysler not far behind and Europe in the wings....it won't be long.
Ray H, you keep on posting this statement without providing one shred of evidence. Shame on you.quote:
Originally posted by Ray H:
In Japan's home and other world markets, Honda "recommends" 5W-20 strictly for economy reasons. For mechanical reliability, Honda still prefers the use of 10W-30 motor oil.
Hah!! Read further into the thread.quote:
Originally posted by Hirev:
Perhaps some here did not read this. Hondas so called 5w 20 oil is really a 5w 30. So much for Hondas using 5w 20. Link VOA Honda 5w 20
Three Walmarts in the Austin area have had ample supplies of it since it's inception. You must be way out in the boonies.quote:
Originally posted by AstroVic:
I've never seen Havoline 5W20 at any of the Walmarts in my area.
Your presumption that "world companies" are universally recommending 5W-20 is divorced from the facts. Those that do (companies based in Japan and the U.S.) do so not because they're absolutely convinced of 5W-20's superior protection effectiveness, but because they're absolutely convinced if they don't they'll be bumping up against EPA imposed administrative fines for fleet excess fuel consumption. Keep in mind a salient point: a "potential" lawsuit is only a concern if it actually takes place. If it does, and the manufacturer loses, he can appeal. There's little wiggle room when a gub'mnt imposed administrative sanction is involved.quote:
Originally posted by Chris Meutsch:
If it wasn't OK to use, why would companies leave themselves naked for lawsuits by recommending it? Use it as recommended by the car manufacturer/oil maker with confidence.
You're one of the few with a brain. Drives you crazy huh?quote:
Originally posted by Louie's gone fishing:
If every commuter in the US would switch to a car that weighed at or below twenty five hundred pounds with a 1.5 litre engine, and the amateur politicans would stop playing games with trains and commuter lanes and start pouring concrete, the use of gasoline would take a big dive. People will not give up their cars, car pool, ride the train and, HOV lanes are a joke. On a 4-lane freeway with an HOV lane, you take 95%+ of the traffic that was in 4 lanes and put it into 3 lanes. Great idea. It does not work, never has, and these politicians keep doing it. We need to get out of our big cars, and they need to pour concrete. Next time I hear one of these tv talking heads present another hydrogen car of the future, I think I'm going to puke. We have discovered the problem, and it is us.
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Originally posted by i:
You're one of the few with a brain. Drives you crazy huh?quote:
Originally posted by Louie's gone fishing:
If every commuter in the US would switch to a car that weighed at or below twenty five hundred pounds with a 1.5 litre engine...
And in the very next paragragh he states, "Durability is not an issue, either. If it were, we wouldn't recommend 5w-20."quote:
Originally posted by jmacmaster:
Does this kind of self-professed "greenie" statement make anyone but me suspicious? We all know that the greenies could care less about how long an engine lasts if doing something to the engine helps the environment.
I am not a "conspiracy nut", and frankly, I resent being called one. Discussion and debate of important issues has been a part of my job for 25 years. I've learned that those who resort to insulting labels usually do so because they can't come up with the facts and reasoning needed to win the argument. This is happening a lot in this site's on-going 5W-20 debate.quote:
Originally posted by 427Z06:
And in the very next paragragh he states, "Durability is not an issue, either. If it were, we wouldn't recommend 5w-20."quote:
Originally posted by jmacmaster:
Does this kind of self-professed "greenie" statement make anyone but me suspicious? We all know that the greenies could care less about how long an engine lasts if doing something to the engine helps the environment.
What is with you thin oil conspiracy nuts? FWIW, I've seen documented engine tests where 5w20 oils produced less wear than a CI-4(Grp II based) 15w40.
Use the search function, this has been debated dozens of times with plenty of facts.quote:
Originally posted by jmacmaster:
I've learned that those who resort to insulting labels usually do so because they can't come up with the facts and reasoning needed to win the argument. This is happening a lot in this site's on-going 5W-20 debate.
Not at all. They're so far ahead of the economy and environmental curve in more ways then anyone else ..they literally don't have a dog in the fight. Not only are they ahead on CAFE ..but their cars last so long that they save energy by being in economical service a very long time (and still ahead of the CAFE curve while doing it).quote:
Originally posted by jmacmaster:
Does this kind of self-professed "greenie" statement make anyone but me suspicious?