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Soo, essentially, there's little point in buying the regular version if i can get a HM version?
Why is this somewhat of a revelation to me?
Why is this somewhat of a revelation to me?
That is correct
That is the position of Valvoline. It's also what I believe. I think another manufacturer ( Exxon-Mobil?) takes the opposite stand. Think many others are silent on the whole thing. Valvoline has MaxLife filling the high mileage and blend slots at VIOC even though Daily Protection is also a blend up to 5w30.So are we saying that, for the most part at least, high mileage oils are no worse for a new or non-high-mileage engine than regular oil?
Are we saying that some of the HM oils are a little thicker in the viscosity range of the rating?
And lastly, saying that they can (do?) contain a little more additives to help with wear?
Are you saying it's the position of the manufacturers? What opposite stand are Exxon/Mobil1 taking?That is the position of Valvoline. It's also what I believe. I think another manufacturer ( Exxon-Mobil?) takes the opposite stand. Think many others are silent on the whole thing. Valvoline has MaxLife filling the high mileage and blend slots at VIOC even though Daily Protection is also a blend up to 5w30.
Soo, essentially, there's little point in buying the regular version if i can get a HM version?
Why is this somewhat of a revelation to me?
I must have read that they didn't recommend low mileage on BITOG but I'm too lazy to research it even though I'm a retired librarian and should have known not to quote what I couldn't source. Seems to have been in last month although it could have been an older cite. Anyone else remember this? Not even sure it's XOM.Are you saying it's the position of the manufacturers? What opposite stand are Exxon/Mobil1 taking?
https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants...ars/high-mileage-guide/high-mileage-challengeI must have read that they didn't recommend low mileage on BITOG but I'm too lazy to research it even though I'm a retired librarian and should have known not to quote what I couldn't source. Seems to have been in last month although it could have been an older cite. Anyone else remember this? Not even sure it's XOM.
https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants...ars/high-mileage-guide/high-mileage-challenge
Here is a test Mobil did on their high mileage oil-- half a million miles on a Camry-- looks like they started with a new car so that should be something. I think the earlier reference I found looked like it was written by some copy writer, like a Q&A about the product. I wouldn't hesitate to use a hi mi product in a new car.
Recently Mobil emailed another member here back and basically said if it meets the spec for said vehicle it is recommended.That is the position of Valvoline. It's also what I believe. I think another manufacturer ( Exxon-Mobil?) takes the opposite stand. Think many others are silent on the whole thing. Valvoline has MaxLife filling the high mileage and blend slots at VIOC even though Daily Protection is also a blend up to 5w30.
Yes, the statement being referenced about not using it was unsubstantiated and is contrary to anything on their website. It is also contrary to API licensing.Recently Mobil emailed another member here back and basically said if it meets the spec for said vehicle it is recommended.
Exactly, it's all marketing. Lots of people will buy it because they think it's better for their 4x4 or truck etc. It doesn't mean it's a good oil, just don't expect it to be a miracle product for your vehicle because it says it's for a truck or 4x4. Personally I run m1 0w40 Euro in my old flat tappet V8 even though it's the opposite of being marketed for it, because I can buy it on sale for the same price as regular m1 almost and it has extra zddp.So you know how there's apple cheerios, honey nut cheerios, and regular cereal? They're "shelf flankers" meant to take up space so there's more valvoline on the shelf and less quaker state.
This leads to benefits such as Autozone's december clearance sale on stuff like 10w40 4x4 high mileage synthetic blend. Then BITOG goes crazy about how it's perfect for their 1997 XJ Cherokees.
It's not a dumb question because the "leak plugger" chemistry in stuff like R134a is a definite no-no, and the stuff in PS or ATF fluid is controversial.
Personally I run m1 0w40 Euro in my old flat tappet V8 even though it's the opposite of being marketed for it, because I can buy it on sale for the same price as regular m1 almost and it has extra zddp.