Havoline 5W-40 synthetic

Ron

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Hi, I just found Havoline 5W-40 Formula3 Synthetic oil today in a local Auto Zone.Is this oil a better choice than Castrol Syntec 5W-50?It's not easy finding any 5W-40 syn oil here.The price at $3.39 a quart was ok by me.Was this a good choice, or should I take it back? Help? Ron [I dont know]
 
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I'm leary of any 0w-/5w-40 oils. Unless you don't mind running a 30wt oil...because that is what it will be very quick. Isn't that lubro-moly A3 also and it still sheared down a grade in less than 4k miles. The M1 0w40 analysis sheared down as well (how do you think they achieve ECIII!)
 
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Jason, I used to have the same theory until I started seeing Mobil Delvac 1, 5w-40 oil analysis results. This stuff is completely shear stable - it starts out @ 15 Cst and it stays between 14.5-15.5 Cst out to 10,000-15,000 miles. Very impressive stuff! They must get the 167 VI just from the basestock blend, or it's the most shear stable polymer system I've ever seen in 25 years.
 
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Originally posted by Ron: Hi, I just found Havoline 5W-40 Formula3 Synthetic oil today in a local Auto Zone.Is this oil a better choice than Castrol Syntec 5W-50?It's not easy finding any 5W-40 syn oil here.The price at $3.39 a quart was ok by me.Was this a good choice, or should I take it back? Help? Ron [I dont know]
I agree with TooSlick that the Halvoline is a good oil due to the specs it meets (even tho i suspect its a groupIII not IV), but we know i has to be better than 5w-50 Syntec. Way to wide a spread, even if the syntec was a group IV, which it isn't, I still would think 5w-50 is too large. 5w-40 is the largest spread I am comfortable with. Fred... [Smile] [ November 26, 2002, 09:54 PM: Message edited by: palmerwmd ]
 
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According to the MSDS, this is a Group III oil. I would not feel comfortable running the 5w40. It's also on the low end of the 40 wt scale with a visc of [email protected] Also the flash point is 432F which pales in comparison to the flash point of their 10w30 (496F). I am currently keeping the 10w30 as a backup plan for my newer cars. But as long as I can get M1 at or below $4 a qt, that is what I'll run.
 
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Originally posted by Last_Z: I don't know if it has much in common, but I kinda took a beating when I put Havoline 10W-30 in my car this past weekend. http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=000825 Rick
I think something that was not established in that thread was whether it was a Equillon Havoline or a Chevron/Texaco Havoline you changed to. Those jugs were 17.88 for five quarts at Walmart,,the cases of 6 quarts are 23.37 so not a huge savings per quart it seems but if 5 jugs were bought it adds up I suppose. Ron, same thing,,on the back label who makes it ? I would think the Chevron/Texaco to be a very good 5/40 motor oil.JMO I guess it depends on the engine you have,it's condition and how it's driven,,,same thing with all the oils because many things factor in when choosing a oil.
 
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Here is a virgin analysis of Havoline Synthetic 5W40: http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=000011 I don't know if this is the Equilon or the Chevron version. However it is API SJ/SH certified as stated on the label at the time of purchase. The label does not state any API Cx rating. I am currently using this oil in my Honda B16 engine. So far, I've only gone approx. 3000km. Knock-on-wood, suprisingly, no oil consumption from an engine that has been sitting in a crate for at least 5 years. I'm planning on doing an oil analysis at 5000km to establish a baseline, and then switch to Delvac 1 to compare. However, I think it won't be fair because I'm currently having engine problems and I've been alternating between running 20% lean and 20% rich. Regards, Oz
 

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Hi, This Havoline 5W-40 Synthetic came in black bottles,Formula 3,API Service SJ-SH-CF-CD from Equilon/Houston.Also,a teal color marked API Service SJ-SH-CF,with Olympic sponser USA logo,from Equilon/Houston.Can I trust this oil for hot summer driving in my '99 V6 Econoline Van with 24K miles.Will it shear back too much in 5-6K.Castrol Syntec 5W-50 Blackstone analysis came back with good numbers.I can still take the stuff back to Auto Zone,and go for M1 10W-30?Thanks. Ron [Roll Eyes]
 

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Current ChevronTexaco Havoline Syn 5W-40 spec: Havoline Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 meets API Service Categories SL/CF, SJ/CF ACEA European Oil Sequence A3/B3 Havoline Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 is approved by BMW Longlife-98 Mercedes Benz 229.1 Porsche Volkswagen 502.00 and 505.00 Volvo SMB 22-3
 
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Originally posted by dragboat:
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Originally posted by Last_Z: I don't know if it has much in common, but I kinda took a beating when I put Havoline 10W-30 in my car this past weekend. http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=000825 Rick
I think something that was not established in that thread was whether it was a Equillon Havoline or a Chevron/Texaco Havoline you changed to. Those jugs were 17.88 for five quarts at Walmart,,the cases of 6 quarts are 23.37 so not a huge savings per quart it seems but if 5 jugs were bought it adds up I suppose. Ron, same thing,,on the back label who makes it ? I would think the Chevron/Texaco to be a very good 5/40 motor oil.JMO I guess it depends on the engine you have,it's condition and how it's driven,,,same thing with all the oils because many things factor in when choosing a oil.

I posted on the original thread that it is distributed by Equilon out of Houston. Regarding M1, they sell those for $28.6 a case or $4.77 a quart. Maybe they have it on sale where you live. Rick ps: I will be switching back to M1 when I'm done with this batch though.
 
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