Have you heard of The Grappler device that some police are using to stop pursuits?

safer than a pit :unsure:
Having been a P.I.T. instructor for over 30 years, it can be very safe if done correctly. It's all the variables that creep into the situation that can make it extremely unsafe. And dynamics can cahnge the outcome in an instant. This is why many departments have deemed the maneuver to be considered a deadly force response. Before I retired, I saw the Grappler demo-ed in action. I like it. I like StarChase the best though.
https://www.starchase.com/
 
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Having been a P.I.T. instructor for over 30 years, it can be very safe if done correctly. It's all the variables that creep into the situation that can make it extremely unsafe. And dynamics can cahnge the outcome in an instant. This is why many departments have deemed the maneuver to be considered a deadly force response. Before I retired, I saw the Grappler demo-ed in action. I like it. I like StarChase the best though.
https://www.starchase.com/
That's funny, I used to work out at The PIT 20yrs ago. Your maneuver is likely FAR safer lol.

That said, @AZjeff this device is awesome. Wish I could see them in action locally to me.
 
Having been a P.I.T. instructor for over 30 years, it can be very safe if done correctly.
@shortyb I've watched a few PIT compilation videos on YouTube and the scary ones are where the LEO makes contact on the left side making the car skid to the left either into the middle barrier or across the opposing lane. The officers are usually pretty jacked up at the end when they're getting the perp out of the car. This Grappler seems to keep the stop more under control.
 
@shortyb I've watched a few PIT compilation videos on YouTube and the scary ones are where the LEO makes contact on the left side making the car skid to the left either into the middle barrier or across the opposing lane. The officers are usually pretty jacked up at the end when they're getting the perp out of the car. This Grappler seems to keep the stop more under control.
Yeah, used to work with a few. Taught folks the absolute importance of evaluating the surroundings, which direction things will likely go, and what could happen there, when you move in to make contact. Akin to one cardinal rule of firearm safety; know your target and what is beyond. Grappler does seem to make the officer think and react more controllably, but the possibility still exists for non-involved folks to become involved, with resultant damage/injury likely. Thats why I like the StarChase. You get close enough to identify the suspect and deploy the "dart". Then disengage and let the tracking begin. Gives time for the suspect to slow down and LE a chance to formulate a safer capture response.

Seems most of the YT chases are for traffic infractions or minor charges. Unless they pose a serious threat to public safety if allowed to continue, let them go. A car can be replaced, an innocent life can't. Ain't worth it.
 
Excellent - great opportunity for adrenaline jacked people to kill innocent bystanders. Then the city / county get to pay millions so everyone loses.

Notice the product video is out in the desert. How many high speed chases take place out in the desert?

Toss a magnetic tracking device on the car, catch it later, or have someone throw a tire killing device ahead of it. Do away with the antiquated buggy whip ideas.
 
Yes, they are amazing. Saw one used in a real another pursuit video. The rear undercarriage stayed intact. This is a good SHORT video.
A ROOFER is the one who invented it! Got to love the land of opportunity.

Another cool fact I was not aware of is the Grappler is not shot from the police car to the car that is being chase. Check it out, he explains it all. Short less than 2 minute video with the inventor

 
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My son’s department has Grapplers, they like them and they do work.

Chase or not to chase is a no win situation. My department has been sued for chasing AND for not chasing, how on earth do you manage that?

Problem with letting them go is a mile later the amped up perp is still blowing red lights at 70 mph with no police anywhere in sight. Again, just a no win situation.

It is my observation departments that consistently chase have fewer cars run from them, word gets out.

My department severely curtailed its chase policy years ago. Having a car take off went from once a week to three or four times a shift in short order. 😕
 
Seems like with a tracker you'll recover the car, maybe undamaged, but the driver could/will be long gone. If LE lets the car out of sight how do they prove who was driving it?

KCJ, thanks for sharing experience not opinion. Does your son say how much damage is typical when the Grappler is used? A PIT seems to pretty much guarantee damage to 2 vehicles to some degree.
 
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