Have you ever owned a "dream" car you really wanted?
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Very cool! They must've gotten the ZF8 tuning right down pat... as in quite instantaneous on-throttle downshifts, downshift rev-matching (when neutral throttle or on the over-run), etc?
i recently spent a few hours in the new miata/spider. Yes, it was tight, and I didn’t fit well in it. It was an automatic and I’ve got to admit, they made a beautiful driveline in that car. Small engine with a nicely tuned turbo, it seemed very well sorted. 1.5L or so? I was riding passenger so I had no way to tell if it connected with previous mx-5 experience, but my friend LOVES his.
The auto is still conventional and you can tell it’s not a DSG. But shifts are fast, happen at the right time, and it has no bad habits. The paddle shifter has little in the way of nannies. It will shift or hold a gear, what ever you ask. It will not put it into 1st at 171mph. Although it will allow 7th to be selected putting it right at redline
Indeed !! I had a 70 challenger with a 340 and a 4 speed etc and A few years Ago i got a nice ride in a Hell cat Challenger and I certainly would rather have the new model with the Hell cat engine than the 70 Challenger.
So, it is not a "range-select" type of control; rather it is full-manual (with safeguards in place)? The difference, here, is rather subtle... Bear with me as I give an illustration... A Range-Select type of control: Say you want to go no higher than fourth gear, when for example, you're currently in seventh. You'd hit the down-a-gear paddle three times... and it'd downshift (with downshift rev control) into fourth. Then, leaving the paddles alone, say you come to a stop. It automatically, in succession, downshifts into first. Then, again, not touching the paddles you accelerate again... and it automatically goes first, second, third, then fourth... but it will go no higher than fourth, because you've range-selected fourth as the max. The manner in which these upshifts from first to fourth occurs is contingent on how much you push the throttle. If indeed you let it go into third, and then you really punch the throttle, it'll automatically drop down to second or even first. Point is, it behaves fully as an A/T, with throttle-controlled behaviour (but will go no higher than fourth - your range-selected top gear).
Contrast that with a non range-select (and more fully manual) control. Do the same thing (i.e not touching the paddles once you hit the down-paddle to get to fourth gear)... and sure, it'll shift up, but it'll (artificially) hold lower gears, and not necessarily upshift at the optimal (fully-automatic) shift points... and if you get into third, and you punch it... it will not automatically downshift (because it's in full-manual... with safeguards in place).
I personally like the former type of control... the range-select type.
Which type of control is evident with the ZF8 in your Jag?
Are you with me, here, on the subtle difference?
TIA for these questions
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Understand clearly. Not sure. I’ll try it when I get home.So, it is not a "range-select" type of control; rather it is full-manual (with safeguards in place)? The difference, here, is rather subtle... Bear with me as I give an illustration... A Range-Select type of control: Say you want to go no higher than fourth gear, when for example, you're currently in seventh. You'd hit the down-a-gear paddle three times... and it'd downshift (with downshift rev control) into fourth. Then, leaving the paddles alone, say you come to a stop. It automatically, in succession, downshifts into first. Then, again, not touching the paddles you accelerate again... and it automatically goes first, second, third, then fourth... but it will go no higher than fourth, because you've range-selected fourth as the max. The manner in which these upshifts from first to fourth occurs is contingent on how much you push the throttle. If indeed you let it go into third, and then you really punch the throttle, it'll automatically drop down to second or even first. Point is, it behaves fully as an A/T, with throttle-controlled behaviour (but will go no higher than fourth - your range-selected top gear).
Contrast that with a non range-select (and more fully manual) control. Do the same thing (i.e not touching the paddles once you hit the down-paddle to get to fourth gear)... and sure, it'll shift up, but it'll (artificially) hold lower gears, and not necessarily upshift at the optimal (fully-automatic) shift points... and if you get into third, and you punch it... it will not automatically downshift (because it's in full-manual... with safeguards in place).
I personally like the former type of control... the range-select type.
Which type of control is evident with the ZF8 in your Jag?
Are you with me, here, on the subtle difference?
TIA for these questions
That's a very unusually optioned car. There were a lot of Road Runners with four speeds. I've never seen one coupled with A/C. I know at some point rear gear ratios were limited with manual transmission A/C to prevent grenadine the compressor.
*grenading.
Love spell check.
@Cujet , did you determine if the transmission in your F-Type is range-control versus full-manual control?
my suv has manual control, it'll hold whatever gear you choose and it won't upshift, it'll just hit the rev limiter (according to the owners manual, i never tried it) it will downshift in manual mode, when you come to a stop it goes to 1st gear. there's a 1 or 2 second delay between selecting the next gear and the transmission shifting, so for normal driving i leave it in drive. the manual control is good on hills but you have to remember to upshift and downshift, a range select would be more practical but less precise.
@Cujet , my apologies; I think I asked you about that in the following thread in Oct '22...
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...a-2017-jaguar-f-type-s-v6.360113/post-6249821
You said you don't think it has range-control. Have you since experimented a bit more to affirm your thoughts back then?
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...a-2017-jaguar-f-type-s-v6.360113/post-6249821
You said you don't think it has range-control. Have you since experimented a bit more to affirm your thoughts back then?
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I have. I had a Porsche 951. It was a time when I do not believe leasing existed, so there was an assumption that I was wealthy. I would have to admit, ladies treated me as such. Drove it to my first Grateful Dead show and put stickers all over it. How this came about is a long story, because I was in college and hardly wealthy at all. btw it was able to reach a top speed of what was reported in Car and Driver, as I did that and was also caught 
My stupid pass was a 1991 Acura NSX with 69k in 2004 for under $25k. I instead bought a brand new WRX.
Better than buying one and then getting an insurance quote and having to sell it!
When I was in college I happened to buy a 1994 ranger, 3.0, 5 speed, regular cab, long box. It was a solid truck and I figured I'd give it a shot. I didn't realize it but that truck basically became my dream vehicle at that time in my life.
Something about the regular cab with the sliding rear window open out cruising just made me at peace. Hard thing to explain. Unfortunately that one was the only vehicle I ever totaled when a lady didn't yield her left turn and it flipped when we collided.
Something about the regular cab with the sliding rear window open out cruising just made me at peace. Hard thing to explain. Unfortunately that one was the only vehicle I ever totaled when a lady didn't yield her left turn and it flipped when we collided.
I have owned these Corvettes: a 1969,1987,1997,1998,1999,2005, and 2014 and consider all of them my dream cars. It's not always about how much money they cost but how you feel about the car or cars. I also owned many muscle cars in the day and always bought the newest one I could reasonably afford.
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I had a C4 Corvette that I really liked, A 71 K5 Blazer that I should have kept.
I like my WS6 as it isn't regular traffic. Never really been in to exotics.
I would like to maybe get A C6/7 or a CTS-V Wagon. The only other one I would really like to have is a 1970 442.
I like my WS6 as it isn't regular traffic. Never really been in to exotics.
I would like to maybe get A C6/7 or a CTS-V Wagon. The only other one I would really like to have is a 1970 442.
Even if I could afford it, I doubt being 6'7"/2m01 that I could fit into most of the exotics I have lusted after.no. Needless to say my finances wouldn't allow it.....
If so, what was the vehicle?
Maybe a 68-72 Chevelle. My parents had a 70 when I was small.
But I'd want a driver, not a garage queen.
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