Have heared that Redline is garbage...
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Understood, but I am wondering if their street stuff is nearly as good. Also, race cars get new oil @ every race. Also, they don't go through nearly as many cold-hot cycles as street oil does. I just sent out my 2nd Redline UOA, and have just shy of 20k on the motor, 3k on that sample...so I'll be able to make a good judgement weather to move on or not.
I have used the Redline Shockproof Gear oils in motorcycles with very good results. Especially in the noisy Harley Davdson transmissions the Redline Shockproof Heavy really quiets them down and can be run as far as 20-30,000 miles on one fill. The 20w60HD is very good for high temperature air cooled applications as well.
Yes, it is just as good. It's the very same oil but for the detergents. I have asked this question before and Roy Howell of Redline said the only difference is that the racing oil has slightly better lubricity because of not having the detergents, but it is not significant and makes no difference in terms of wear and longevity. It helps in making every last bit of HP which is important to serious racers. Like you said, serious racers will change their oil after a matter of hours on the engine and the engine will be torn down from time to time, so detergents are not necessary. For high performance street engines, Redline actually recommends against using their racing oil.
In the best interest of the environment I would be willing to dispose of all the Red Line Oil on the East Coast at my cost!
Just ship it all to me........I'll dispose of it for a nominal fee....
Well, I got the UOA back. Seems like the Redline is doing well, but I had a bit of detonation during this batch which I believe is causing bearing wear. I am gonna keep the octane level high during this to reduce the det, and see if that helps. So I know...was the damage done catastrophic? (I know, non-perfect UOA means the end of the world...but seriously...)
The stuff I saw that I did not like (my value/average):
Lead: 33/6
Tin: 1/0
Manganese: 51/2
Silicon: 20/11
Calcium, Phosphorus, and Zinc were also a bit higher than averages. Moly was really high, but my understanding is that that is due to the Redline. My assumption is that once there is bearing damage, it's just kind of a matter of time...
The stuff I saw that I did not like (my value/average):
Lead: 33/6
Tin: 1/0
Manganese: 51/2
Silicon: 20/11
Calcium, Phosphorus, and Zinc were also a bit higher than averages. Moly was really high, but my understanding is that that is due to the Redline. My assumption is that once there is bearing damage, it's just kind of a matter of time...
Shemoves: Silicon is pretty high...what kind of air filter are you running?
Airaide panel (basically a K&N drop-in). I'm gonna clean/reoil it ASAP.
Would you mind posting the entire UOA report in that section of the site? I always like looking at the Redline reports.
no prob...not sure how to do that though. It is a .pdf file.
Silicon is high---oiled gauze air filter----hmmm, sounds about right.
I would remove the filter and use a high quality "paper" filter.
Yup. Time for an Amsoil EaA panel filter.
Dang. I'll have to get a retune and I'll lose power by going with a paper filter. If it means engine life though, then so be it. I am in the process of cleaning and reoiling the filter, so I am gonna do another 3k with the cleaned filter and see how it does.
The site admins would prefer that the UOA results be typed into the forum so the results are permanent on this site.
Thanks for posting that, buster!!
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