I would give my kids the same answer.asked me for a motorcycle and license and I had to say no.
Few things haunt me after 21 years as LE. Taking the helmet off a 21 year old kid who I knew was dead after hitting a tree is one. Guys on bikes will get it.Yep turning someones light off is extreme. I bought my son a decent used car and helped him pay for his driving license (over 2K in Germany), the next year my daughter asked me for a motorcycle and license and I had to say no.
I told her I would do the same for her as my son but not a bike, I could never live with myself when she got into an accident. Things are still difficult 5 years on with her, she thinks I played favorites.
My son living 110 miles away.I would say pulling the plug on a loved one when their time is up. It haunts you the rest of your life.
Next to lighten the mood.
Doing a duet live with the late Joe Cocker like Jennifer Warnes did.
Can you imagine trying to reign him in on stage?
Yep turning someones light off is extreme. I bought my son a decent used car and helped him pay for his driving license (over 2K in Germany), the next year my daughter asked me for a motorcycle and license and I had to say no.
I told her I would do the same for her as my son but not a bike, I could never live with myself when she got into an accident. Things are still difficult 5 years on with her, she thinks I played favorites.
Thank you sir!Trav and Zee09...
A family member making a decision to end life supportive care is not you or yourself or individually ending another's life on this Earth. It is you understanding that without serious, very serious medical intervention that your family member would pass away anyway. And also you totally understanding that there is truly no way forward that your loved one will ever have any ability to recover to any degree that would result in a life that your loved one would ever want to live in.
In your cases it is nothing you all should feel guilty or bad about. . . Never should you all feel that way.
Never.
You are good men ... Who did the best you could do. You did not do anything wrong at all.
You acted with tremendous love, thought, and consideration.
I have been in the place.... Numerous times where I have had to administer IV morphine and or by mouth morphine and ativan to a patient. Knowing full well if given too quickly the patient would soon pass away. I gave a 46 yr old patient 6 mg of IV morphine and I pushed it exceptionally slow over 8 minutes... Knowing if I did it in the standard time of 2-3 minutes she might well pass away almost immediately. She did pass away 30 minutes later.
I had to go home feeling like I did the right thing... And that I did it the right way... I never wanted to feel like I did something to where I thought I had done something in a way to where I had rushed or brought an end to a person's life in a wrong way. I could not imagine holding a syringe and because I was in way too big a rush or hurry I had pushed a IV medication way too quickly... And that person pass away and I would be standing right there having done that...
Been a good number of times I have been in that place...
Where I was the last one... There with a patient...
But I know.... In my heart, soul and conscience... I did it in the best and right way I could do. Every time.
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Every time I leave the house to shop, I know that I could run into one of the kids...and that they'll turn on their heel, and walk away.
Trav and Zee09...
A family member making a decision to end life supportive care is not you or yourself or individually ending another's life on this Earth. It is you understanding that without serious, very serious medical intervention that your family member would pass away anyway. And also you totally understanding that there is truly no way forward that your loved one will ever have any ability to recover to any degree that would result in a life that your loved one would ever want to live in.
In your cases it is nothing you all should feel guilty or bad about. . . Never should you all feel that way.
Never.
You are good men ... Who did the best you could do. You did not do anything wrong at all.
You acted with tremendous love, thought, and consideration.
I have been in the place.... Numerous times where I have had to administer IV morphine and or by mouth morphine and ativan to a patient. Knowing full well if given too quickly the patient would soon pass away. I gave a 46 yr old patient 6 mg of IV morphine and I pushed it exceptionally slow over 8 minutes... Knowing if I did it in the standard time of 2-3 minutes she might well pass away almost immediately. She did pass away 30 minutes later.
I had to go home feeling like I did the right thing... And that I did it the right way... I never wanted to feel like I did something to where I thought I had done something in a way to where I had rushed or brought an end to a person's life in a wrong way. I could not imagine holding a syringe and because I was in way too big a rush or hurry I had pushed a IV medication way too quickly... And that person pass away and I would be standing right there having done that...
Been a good number of times I have been in that place...
Where I was the last one... There with a patient...
But I know.... In my heart, soul and conscience... I did it in the best and right way I could do. Every time.
We all have different struggles. Hard is difficult to define.
"pulling the plug" is many times easier to do than you may think. Why make someone anguish and suffer because we have the medical ability to "keep them alive".
I have made the decision several times, and while sad to see the loved one go, the relief of knowing they are no longer suffering is a better feeling.
As with @bbhero, there have been many times that I am the last one to be with the person "alive". It is a hard decision to make, but the right decision for all that I have been at.
It is even harder to see those family members that refuse to make the decision to let someone go that is in extreme pain and suffering or is literally rotting away, just because they can't let go (or even worse, those that are obtaining financial gain from that person still being "alive").
Dementia and Alzheimer's is much harder to deal with IMO. For the person with the disease, they are always in a state of unknown, and that can be very frightening for them. For the caregiver, watching the continual decline and the constant repeating of identical questions is frustrating, weary, and exhausting.
As for those that say no to a motorcycle license, I went with my daughter to her riders course. I got my license when I was 15, I figure her at 19, she is way more mature than I was, and risk is just part of life. She ended up not finishing the course and does not have a desire to get her motorcycle license at this time.