Gross Negligence, Incompetence, Stupidity

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Originally Posted By: John_Corey
As for old people losing their mobility, this usually means that they cannot WALK anymore. It is the lack of any physical exercise that often wears an old person completely down.

Cheers,
-J


In my post it was SPECIFICALLY about old people losing their licences in an area where there's essentially no public transport.

They cease to interact with the community and fade away.

Your bringing into your thread the general lack of being able to WALK is an entirely different matter altogether.
 
Originally Posted By: John_Corey

Hi Shannow,

Why does it gave to be "all or nothing"?


Not quite sure where I said that, but your intent appears to be pretty much that way compared to the status quo (which is certainly not nothing). My daughter's teacher had a fit recently, and can't drive for a year (assuming that there's no more fits)...there are already means to keep at risk people out of the drivers' seat.



I'd like the driving test to include the ability to do basic vehicle checks and maintenance, prove that you can change a tyre, fuse and globe. My ego's not developed to the point that I would seriously argue that everyone who can't should be removed from the road.
 
john -- good morning. i don't "have gary's back", as you state. he's a big boy, and can handle himself very well in a verbal arena.IF you had read some of his posts, at random, going back many years, you would know that.
i did not call you childish. i called your act of calling a mod to close the thread childish. there's a big difference.until you hone your debating skills, it would be wise, as a veteran of nearly 1 month,to limit sparring with the long term veterans. as a rookie member, you clearly are showing disrespect for the veterans.
a couple of things that i learned about debating, in high school -- to command respect, one must show respect.
lack of discipline in intelligent thought exchange usually results in knee jerk reactions.this always results in a loss of argument/debate. you displayed this in calling for a thread closure over nothing.
the use of weak/illogical rationalizations in an attempt to validate one's initial weak/illogical position.
some sun tzu wisdom applies here, as well.if your opponent is superior, retreat, and regroup.as mentioned earlier, if your opponent is angry, irritate him.if you are evenly matched, stay and fight. do not underestimate your opponent,and ALWAYS show respect.
lack or respect appears to be a growing trend here on bitog, for the last couple of years,and most often displayed by new members.rookies.oh, well -- it is what it is.
at any rate, have a good weekend.
 
john -- i read the article from the link in your last post.it certainly is a touchy subject, especially for the rule makers. they have to be careful how they handle this issue, since most people in the senior age demographic vote.
if the politicians make rules that are deemed too restrictive,then they may be committing political suicide.but, "too restrictive" is a subjective matter, and opinions vary. take care.
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
It's a big problem down here, with tourists on rural roads turning out of an intersection onto a major road, straight into oncoming traffic.

We got a nice new speed camera at the bottom of a hill a few years ago, as it was a "black spot". Nearly every fatality in the vicinity was caused by someone on the wrong side of the road.


Shannow, doesn't everyone in AU drive on the "wrong" side of the road ??...
 
LOL, yes we do, just like the toilet flushes the wrong way.

But something that I discovered in California was that sitting in the passenger seat and having a steering wheel and pedals either means that you are a driving instructor, or really ought to be paying serious attention to what you are doing.
 
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Not meaning to be nasty, but some practice with the quote function would make this thread much more interesting.

Highlighting blocks of text within quotes makes comprehension difficult, and correct quoted responses nigh on impossible.


1) blue is too close to black that I am not going to even bother reading anymore.

2) color instead of quote makes it hard to tell who is quoted and who is replied.


I gave up.


+1

I need to use the darker theme colors for the contrast and that irritating blue makes me want to choke someone. Kidding, of course, but everyone gets the drift.
 
Originally Posted By: bigmike
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Not meaning to be nasty, but some practice with the quote function would make this thread much more interesting.

Highlighting blocks of text within quotes makes comprehension difficult, and correct quoted responses nigh on impossible.


1) blue is too close to black that I am not going to even bother reading anymore.

2) color instead of quote makes it hard to tell who is quoted and who is replied.


I gave up.


+1

I need to use the darker theme colors for the contrast and that irritating blue makes me want to choke someone. Kidding, of course, but everyone gets the drift.


Hi Mike,

I stopped using the blue font color as soon as the first colorblind or color-impaired member complained. I also began immediately quoting properly, in an effort to conform with forum etiquette!

Cheers,
-J
 
Originally Posted By: John_Corey
I stopped using the blue font color as soon as the first colorblind or color-impaired member complained.


You must be a real charmer in real life.
 
Originally Posted By: John_Corey


........as soon as the first colorblind or color-impaired member complained.



I know I said I was done, but I just wanted to jump back in and thank you. Thank you for confirming that my "spidey sense" is still strong, and usually spot on.....
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Good night, and I promise, this time I'm done.

edited out my rant against cloaked bigotry and ignorance in obviously educated wolfs clothing....
 
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Originally Posted By: Shannow
LOL, yes we do, just like the toilet flushes the wrong way.



That must make a terrible mess.
 
Originally Posted By: John_Corey
Dear moderator,

I ask that you lock this thread. Not only has Gary decided to not argue the topic but me as a person instead, but other posters are not commenting any longer on the topic. Clearly, this thread has run its course.

Gary may also want to stop burning all bridges, since right now I am still willing to give him a chance to redeem himself for his poor behavior.

Cheers,
-J


Dear John,

If you don't care for the way this thread is going, don't read it. It really is that simple.

Best Regards,
Dear Moderator

P.S. Thanks you for your concern about Gary's bridge pyromania, but in all his many thousands of posts here he hasn't managed to disassociate himself from many of us.
 
Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS
Originally Posted By: John_Corey
........as soon as the first colorblind or color-impaired member complained.

I know I said I was done, but I just wanted to jump back in and thank you. Thank you for confirming that my "spidey sense" is still strong, and usually spot on.....
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Good night, and I promise, this time I'm done.

edited out my rant against cloaked bigotry and ignorance in obviously educated wolfs clothing....

Hi LS2JSTS,

If a person cannot tell a bold medium blue colour, which is what I used, from black, what do you call that person? Certainly there must be some impairment of visual perception. I did not know that being visually impaired was shameful. In any case,, I did accommodated more than gladly the request of not using coloured, other than black, fonts. If you consider this bigotry and ignorance, so be it.

I find it rather funny that the actual topic is now being avoided, while the focus has shifted towards criticising me for being rude and ignorant. I would like to offer my apologies to all the ladies on this board for being rude an non-P/C.

Cheers,
-J
 
Originally Posted By: XS650
Originally Posted By: John_Corey
Dear moderator,

I ask that you lock this thread. Not only has Gary decided to not argue the topic but me as a person instead, but other posters are not commenting any longer on the topic. Clearly, this thread has run its course.

Gary may also want to stop burning all bridges, since right now I am still willing to give him a chance to redeem himself for his poor behavior.

Cheers,
-J


Dear John,

If you don't care for the way this thread is going, don't read it. It really is that simple.

Best Regards,
Dear Moderator

P.S. Thanks you for your concern about Gary's bridge pyromania, but in all his many thousands of posts here he hasn't managed to disassociate himself from many of us.





Yes Dear!

Cheers,
-J
 
Originally Posted By: John_Corey
If a person cannot tell a bold medium blue colour, which is what I used, from black, what do you call that person? Certainly there must be some impairment of visual perception.


Please quote me where I said I could not tell them apart.

I was making a point that if you wanted to clearly present your point of view, that blue on black was a turn off, and would reduce the tendancy of people to even bother reading the message. Given your superior understanding of the human condition, surely you'd want to dumb it down to the widest audience.

Case in point when communication is desired, and pretty close to topic.

How many dark blue on black background traffic signs are there ?
 
John doesn't know what real visual impairment is like. You have to forgive his ignorance. Much of the population, especially any elitist that doesn't understand why people don't conform to his way of thinking, is ignorant on such matters.

I am a contracted consultant for a training facility in the business of helping visually impaired individuals use computers. This not only includes totally blind individuals, but also people with light sensitivity (see another thread for this on this board), magnification needs, and other visual issues (fields of view, eye conditions, etc.).

Of course, I'm associated with a local university and see the elitism up close and personal on a daily basis. Whoever mentioned the educational wolf's clothing hit the nail on the head.

I've refrained from speaking up when I've read this thread until now. I suppose people have a limit and I've met mine. Instead of my normal highly intelligent posting speeches, I think I'll keep this somewhat simple. John, you simply rub people the wrong way. Your style of debate, the wording, and the inability to reason other than your preconcluded ideas simply irritate people from having a conversation with you. It's not that you may or may not be correct with any of these. I find you somewhat like myself, but a side of myself that I try to rid throughout the years.

I hope that you don't take this wrong, but rather an outside party looking in and making my observations known to you. Take them for what you will and, perhaps, the criticism will be constructive throughout your duration with us.
 
Per John's request, back on topic.

John, I find your stance on this topic to be somewhat of a double standard. In your original post you suggest zero tolerance for wrong way driving infractions. You support this argument by suggesting that better regulation is required via others (doctors, government)to weed out the offending misfits.
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those infractions that should result in mandatory license removal no matter what.


Then, when I brought up the subject of the much more prevalent cause of accidents due to drivers in inclement weather conditions you state
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The law already covers inclement driving conditions and the responsibility of the driver to adjust to those conditions.


Which is it, John? Government control and zero tolerance, or "the reponsibility of the driver".

Your stance reminds me of the double standards our country adopts regarding alchohol and drugs. For the most part, we accept, sponser, and support alchohol and all of it's expense and associated tragedy. But, on the other hand we throw people in jail for smoking marijuana.
 
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How many dark blue on black background traffic signs are there ?


In some Darwin-esque Dystopian way... that would make a grand filter. It's very (un) Natural Law.

My evil doppelganger is pondering how to implement it as we speak.


(just a drive by posting
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