GM plans to cut 25,000 U.S. jobs by 2008

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Originally posted by wavinwayne:
I've made my living for the last 13 years doing mechanical design contract work for Delphi Automotive Systems, formerly Saginaw Steering Gear. Their biggest customer is still GM. I don't know how much, if any, these job cuts will directly affect me.

Any time GM is hurting, it always has the potential to hurt me & my family. So, naturally when I heard the news today, it didn't exactly pep me up.
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Hey many on this board would rather see someone in Japan have your job:( It is obvious to them that you dont know how to design anything, should work for less money, and **** why should you get any retirement benefits.
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Well it's a global economy. He just needs to "adapt"
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After reading all these posts I have to say that
'we' have many problems that need fixin'and that the problems that GM faces are the same throughout much of American industry. Without quoting each post here are my thoughts.

1) I hope that some of the people fired (laid-off) by GM are the engineers that designed the intake-manifold failing V6 engines and the 'beancounters' that allowed them to continue to be produced. This 'attitude' is one of the main reasons GM is failing. They are losing repeat customers by the droves.

2) As far as 'defined benefits' vs. 401K type accounts....wasn't Social Security supposed to be
a plan that you paid into sort of as insurance....what happened...the politicians spent our money and now the system is going broke.
(They used that money as part of the 'General Fund' starting with LBJ)
They also allowed millions of people to collect benefits that never paid a dime into the plan.

3) The Cold War costs the American taxpayer Billions (so did the Marshall Plan which rebuilt Europe after the war) Result...the Countries that
we rebuilt/defended now despise us.

4) Unions are SOCIALIST and are a big part of the problem but so are EXORBITANT executive compensation packages.

5) We educate 'foreigners' at our Universities
while the average American can't afford to pay
for these schools. These same foreigners go back to 'their' country and compete against us. (or worse they bomb our country like Khalid Sheik Mohammed did).

6) We give away BILLIONS in American tax dollars
to Foreign countries each year while our infrastructure falls apart. (I am not talking about humanitarian aid but rather the UNENDING
aid package like the 5 Billion a year that we give to Israel with no end in sight)

I could go on and on but my point is that there is plenty of BLAME to go around. Management (or lack thereof) has to take a great part of the
blame. Myopic (and Socialist) Unions have to take
a great deal of blame. BUT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE TO TAKE THE BIGGEST PART OF THE BLAME.
We have gone from a Horatio Alger mentality to a wasteful, overly materialistic society in only a
generation or two. Many of you are probably thinking " this opinionated SOB should come down from his high horse...etc" but I will leave you with this thought. We have always felt that the next generation (our children) should do even better than the previous generation (us). How many of you really think that our children and grandchildren will do as well as we have done?
 
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Originally posted by VNT:

quote:
Originally posted by wavinwayne:
I've made my living for the last 13 years doing mechanical design contract work for Delphi Automotive Systems, formerly Saginaw Steering Gear. Their biggest customer is still GM. I don't know how much, if any, these job cuts will directly affect me.

Any time GM is hurting, it always has the potential to hurt me & my family. So, naturally when I heard the news today, it didn't exactly pep me up.
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Hey many on this board would rather see someone in Japan have your job:( It is obvious to them that you dont know how to design anything, should work for less money, and **** why should you get any retirement benefits.
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VNT,

That is such BS! I don't know anyone on this board that believes in that and I have been a member for a while! What would be more BS is the willingness to accept mediocrity! Thats unacceptable!

As far as delphi goes, my truck has quite a few of their parts. How I can tell is they use fasteners that rust.
 
"We educate 'foreigners' at our Universities while the average American can't afford to pay for these schools. These same foreigners go back to 'their' country and compete against us. (or worse they bomb our country like Khalid Sheik Mohammed did)."

We give aid to people in this country and end up with the 'shoot the feds in the head because of their ZOG one world government with the flame throwing tanks' right wing. They also commit terrorist acts, bombing and shooting people, and using cyanide and anthrax.

Our universities admit those who can pay, and most also provide some grants and scholarships. In the US we end up with 'socialism for the rich and capitalism for everyone else', due to the concentration of wealth because of the ways that the laws are structured and are being changed. A local luxury yacht maker, their average boats are a bit $20 million, had to add a second shift over a year ago because of all the booming business during the 'what recession ?' If your boats aren't floating like everyone else's you might want to check out why. Most don't though, as instead of bread and the circus that Rome had we have cheap credit and trash TV to keep people content. That way we can fill up our homes with yet more cheap imported junk, and we do it in such a big way that we've created the largest company in the US to fullfill our deperate needs for such junk.
 
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Originally posted by pbm:
After reading all these posts I have to say that
'we' have many problems that need fixin'and that the problems that GM faces are the same throughout much of American industry. Without quoting each post here are my thoughts.

1) I hope that some of the people fired (laid-off) by GM are the engineers that designed the intake-manifold failing V6 engines and the 'beancounters' that allowed them to continue to be produced. This 'attitude' is one of the main reasons GM is failing. They are losing repeat customers by the droves.

2) As far as 'defined benefits' vs. 401K type accounts....wasn't Social Security supposed to be
a plan that you paid into sort of as insurance....what happened...the politicians spent our money and now the system is going broke.
(They used that money as part of the 'General Fund' starting with LBJ)
They also allowed millions of people to collect benefits that never paid a dime into the plan.

3) The Cold War costs the American taxpayer Billions (so did the Marshall Plan which rebuilt Europe after the war) Result...the Countries that
we rebuilt/defended now despise us.

4) Unions are SOCIALIST and are a big part of the problem but so are EXORBITANT executive compensation packages.

5) We educate 'foreigners' at our Universities
while the average American can't afford to pay
for these schools. These same foreigners go back to 'their' country and compete against us. (or worse they bomb our country like Khalid Sheik Mohammed did).

6) We give away BILLIONS in American tax dollars
to Foreign countries each year while our infrastructure falls apart. (I am not talking about humanitarian aid but rather the UNENDING
aid package like the 5 Billion a year that we give to Israel with no end in sight)

I could go on and on but my point is that there is plenty of BLAME to go around. Management (or lack thereof) has to take a great part of the
blame. Myopic (and Socialist) Unions have to take
a great deal of blame. BUT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE TO TAKE THE BIGGEST PART OF THE BLAME.
We have gone from a Horatio Alger mentality to a wasteful, overly materialistic society in only a
generation or two. Many of you are probably thinking " this opinionated SOB should come down from his high horse...etc" but I will leave you with this thought. We have always felt that the next generation (our children) should do even better than the previous generation (us). How many of you really think that our children and grandchildren will do as well as we have done?
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Well said.
 
"The Cold War costs the American taxpayer Billions (so did the Marshall Plan which rebuilt Europe after the war) Result...the Countries that
we rebuilt/defended now despise us."

Allow me to up the figure to many trillions of dolars. Thank you.

If any of you lose your job (my last decent one was sent overseas along with several thousand others from one plant alone), do NOT do a mid-life career change to school teacher.

There were over THREE HUNDRED applicants for one opening at a local school.

Things are tougher out there than what the media or government officials are stating.

But, as I said before, the top 20% of income earners (the richest do not perform useful societal functions while raking in the dough) are doing very very well so THERE'S NO PROBLEM!!!

Carry on.
 
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