GM, California to Bust ‘3,000 Mile Myth’

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Wednesday, June 11, 2008 VOLUME 8 ISSUE 24 Reprinted with permission. ©2008 LNG Publishing Co., Inc By Nancy DeMarco General Motors yesterday joined the California Environmental Protection Agency and its Integrated Waste Management Board in the state’s “3,000 Mile Myth” campaign to educate drivers on reducing motor oil consumption by following their automakers’ recommended oil drain intervals. In response to research showing that 73 percent of California drivers change their oil more frequently than their vehicle manufacturers recommend, the Board has launched a new public information program to educate drivers to follow automaker guidelines for oil change frequency. The program, said the Board, is “designed to bust the 3,000-mile myth, the old mantra that drivers should change their oil every 3,000 miles.” Unnecessary oil changes, the Board said, generate millions of gallons of waste oil per year and have the potential to pollute the state’s natural resources. GM said yesterday that it will support the Board’s program to help motorists understand how frequently they need to change their engine oil and the proper methods of doing so. “The traditional 3,000-mile oil change recommendation was based on engine and oil technologies of the past,” GM said. “General Motors and the California Integrated Waste Management Board share the common goal of reducing the amount of both new and used oil in order to help protect the environment,” said Peter Lord, executive director of GM Service Operations. “In California alone, more than 2.5 million GM vehicles are equipped with the GM Oil Life System,” said Ron Strayhorn, regional service manager, GM’s Western Region. “Owners of these vehicles can reduce the amount of oil they consume simply by following their GM Oil Life System, which for many drivers can be thousands of miles between changes as opposed to the old standard.” These 2.5 million vehicles will save 8 million gallons of oil a year if their drivers follow the Oil Life System rather than following a 3,000-mile oil change interval, according to GM. With the Oil Life System, a computer-based software algorithm, vehicles typically need oil changes every 5,000 to 7,000 or even 10,000 miles, depending on operating conditions. Nationally, there are 31 million GM vehicles with the Oil Life System, GM spokesman Tom Henderson told Lube Report. Following the System rather than a 3,000-mile drain interval could save 100 million gallons of oil annually. Auto manufacturers today are calling for 5,000-mile to 15,000-mile drain intervals, Jon Myers, communications director for the Board, told Lube Report, “but quick lubes are still saying 3,000 miles, so we need to educate drivers.” Radio public service announcements are running in California now, Myers said, to convey the message that drivers need to check their auto manufacturers’ recommendations. The Board has also set up a web site, http://www.3000milemyth.org, with consumer information to support the campaign. The campaign urges motorists to check and follow their vehicle manufacturers’ guidelines for oil changes, and also to consider using synthetic oils that will allow longer drain intervals. Estimating that each driver in California drives about 15,000 miles per year, the Board noted that changing oil at 5,000 miles instead of 3,000 miles will reduce the amount of used oil generated by seven or eight quarts, keeping the oil from entering the waste stream and saving the driver about $76 per year. “When it comes to oil changes, less is more,” said the Board. “You’ll have more money in your wallet by changing your oil less, and fewer oil changes mean less oil that needs to be safely managed and recycled.” The Board, part of the California EPA, is based in Sacramento, Calif.
 

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 Originally Posted By: d00df00d
This is going to turn into automakers + EPA vs. mechanics...
I thought that happened about 10 years ago.
 
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 Originally Posted By: Chris71
I say keep on changing the oil and recycle the used oil! That way nothing is wasted.
I don't think the material waste is the biggest part of it by a long shot. It is the productivity tied up in the oil change infrastructure. The dollars could be put to better use.
 
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I can't stand people who get oil changes every 3k miles now. Just today my coworker told me he was going in for an oil change. He said he had like 5 miles under 3k since the last one. I didn't argue or talk to him about it because it isn't any use. I've tried before and people don't listen. I think some people seriously believe that once your oil reaches the 3k mark it totally fails to do it's job. Most don't even know what oil truly does, except that this mysterious liquid be changed every 3k miles or your car's engine catastrophically fails. The funny thing was that I use to be there with them, although I was more skeptical of the whole 3k mile thing.
 
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Those quick oil change places put a sticker on the windshield that has a date, 3 months out, to go back for another oil change. Or 3k miles which ever comes first. IMO they are the ones poisoning people's minds and the environment.
 
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 Originally Posted By: GMFan
I can't stand people who get oil changes every 3k miles now. Just today my coworker told me he was going in for an oil change. He said he had like 5 miles under 3k since the last one. I didn't argue or talk to him about it because it isn't any use. I've tried before and people don't listen. I think some people seriously believe that once your oil reaches the 3k mark it totally fails to do it's job. Most don't even know what oil truly does, except that this mysterious liquid be changed every 3k miles or your car's engine catastrophically fails. The funny thing was that I use to be there with them, although I was more skeptical of the whole 3k mile thing.
Your coworker goes to those quick oil change places and that is what they preach 3k or 3 months. BITOGers know better than to go to those quick oil change places because the put in cheap oil/air filters and strip your drain bolts.
 
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 Originally Posted By: lazaro
In response to research showing that 73 percent of California drivers change their oil more frequently than their vehicle manufacturers recommend, the Board has launched a new public information program to educate drivers to follow automaker guidelines for oil change frequency.
For some reason, I find that hard to believe.
 
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 Originally Posted By: sunfire
Those quick oil change places put a sticker on the windshield that has a date, 3 months out, to go back for another oil change. Or 3k miles which ever comes first. IMO they are the ones poisoning people's minds and the environment.
EXACTLY ! That 3k figure is a marketing thing . If they could have pulled it off , they would use 2500 miles , but that would have been pushing it . 3K worked out real well for many years .
 
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"The campaign urges motorists to check and follow their vehicle manufacturers’ guidelines for oil changes..." Good grief, that's what I do. I expect that is what a lot of car owners do. My owner's manual says to change the oil every 3000 miles for the type of driving I do. If I do mostly highway driving I change every 6000 miles--just like my owner's manual states. I'm as cheap as anybody--if I don't need to change every 3000 miles then I won't, but then I'm not following the manufacturer's recommendations...
 
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Why, they just need to refer all those folks in California to BITOG, where they would become fully and properly educated about the myths and realities of motor oil! Helen, is our server big enough to handle everyone from California?
 
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 Originally Posted By: Steve S
For prolly most who bring it in to the shop for the 3,000 oil change is the only time the fluids are checked ,tires aired ect.
that is true, if everyone was going 7500 miles on oil, that leaking transmission would burn up from being out of fluid before someone saw it leaking.
 
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[quote=GMFan]I can't stand people who get oil changes every 3k >miles now. It's no worse than the 5K changes on SYNTHETIC, which comprises the vast majority of the UOA's posted on this website.
 
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Some engines are sludge prone and require 3000 mile oil changes (such as the Toyota DOHC 3L V-6 and Chrysler 2.7L V-6). Arguably you can go longer, but I've seen first hand the damage that can happen if the oil is run for too long in these engines.
 
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