Genuine Toyota oil filters...if you consider those "highly rated."
Fram oil filters: Opinions?
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Genuine Toyota oil filters...if you consider those "highly rated."
One of the trick Toyota Nippon Denso with the snow flake ? pleated element. But it is not cardboard niether is Fram.
Ok, let me just give you an update.
I was gonna go to NAPA Auto Parts today to pick up a NAPA Gold filter, but I guess the one closest to my house (it was a store/distribution center all in one building) was closed for New Year's Day. So I then went to Advanced Auto Parts to pick up my second option, PureOne. Once there, I saw that they had the Buy 1, Get 1 free deal for Pennzoil Platinum, so I bought 6 quarts of that as well.
I went straight to Walmart and returned my Pennzoil Plantinum and FRAM oil filter that I bought there. I wish there was a Checker Auto close to my house so I could have gotten in on the 99 cent/quart deal on Pennzoil Platinum, but alas, this was a really good deal as well. And no rebates!
I was gonna go to NAPA Auto Parts today to pick up a NAPA Gold filter, but I guess the one closest to my house (it was a store/distribution center all in one building) was closed for New Year's Day. So I then went to Advanced Auto Parts to pick up my second option, PureOne. Once there, I saw that they had the Buy 1, Get 1 free deal for Pennzoil Platinum, so I bought 6 quarts of that as well.
I went straight to Walmart and returned my Pennzoil Plantinum and FRAM oil filter that I bought there. I wish there was a Checker Auto close to my house so I could have gotten in on the 99 cent/quart deal on Pennzoil Platinum, but alas, this was a really good deal as well. And no rebates!
If I'm spelling it correctly, the Denso filters also use cardboard end caps.
Bob, I've read your earlier posts and comments about flow vs. filtration. It seems to me it's kind of like the whole K&N a/f debate...more flow = less filtration = more contamination but better protection due to increased flow? And vice versa?
So how does one know for sure what is the optimal combination for his vehicle(s)? And what are the ones with the (a) highest flow, and (b) highest filtration?
Will someone quit beating this dead horse?????
lou,
I feel like a oil filter is a waste. you put in the best oil and it will reduce wear, not the filter. of course I dont put anything in my oil that needs a filter.
I use the highest flowing filter posible as I had and contenue saying, flow is better than filtration. as for k&n, the air flow has a higher silicon intake for the most part, most people do not use the k&n airfilter like it suppose to so they allow dirt in(more power because it allows more air in but it also allows more dirt in).
I use my little experiment to show what the highest flow was and I will not use a mobil filter anymore.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...part=1&vc=1
I feel like a oil filter is a waste. you put in the best oil and it will reduce wear, not the filter. of course I dont put anything in my oil that needs a filter.
I use the highest flowing filter posible as I had and contenue saying, flow is better than filtration. as for k&n, the air flow has a higher silicon intake for the most part, most people do not use the k&n airfilter like it suppose to so they allow dirt in(more power because it allows more air in but it also allows more dirt in).
I use my little experiment to show what the highest flow was and I will not use a mobil filter anymore.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...part=1&vc=1
Before finding this site (and others) I used Fram orange filters for MANY years - at least 2 decades. Never had an engine failure. My 82 Escort 1.6 went over 300K using the orange filters. A few years back, I had trouble with my 95 Ford with the 4.0 V6 and a lot of valve train noise on cold start. Heard about the problem valves in the orange Frams and changed to the more expensive FRAM and then Motorcraft and Purolator filters. No more noise - currently at 192K and still going strong.
I tend to agree that the filtering part of an oil filter is given way more importance than necessary.
I tend to agree that the filtering part of an oil filter is given way more importance than necessary.
I no longer use FRAM but there like $4 at wally world and the Motorcraft is $3.28. heck it was even only $3.58 at AAP. For increased flow I got the larger FL-300 which a slightly shorter PH8A/FL-1A size compared to the the small PH3614. This larger area should allow a lower restriction and thus easier/more flow.
Much Happy with 5 Qts vs. 4.5 Qts. total capacity now.
Much Happy with 5 Qts vs. 4.5 Qts. total capacity now.
Come back and criticize when you've contributed more than two posts.
I agree. This is true of the Wallymarts in my area. A lot of us have been saying that there isn't anything wrong with the filtering ability of Fram filters, but there are just as good or better filters for less money.
That being said, I like the Motorcraft filters, but my Walmarts has a VERY limited selection of them, and even fewer of the ST brand!
Yes, oil came in cardboard cans but didn't have to stand up to operating temperatures and pressures while in the can. The last time I used a Fram filter on my Dakota, the engine made lifter-type noises. Changed to Purolator, no more noise.
John
John
I don't return oil or filters if the extra trip would cost more than what I'm trying to save. I'll probably use a fram, or some 10-30 sm I bought when they were out of my first choices. I got enough cars to service with mileage from 57K to 180K that I can find a use for it soon enough.
BOB--what are the best flowing filters in your opinion? I subscribe to your theory that flow is more important than efficiency (provided a minimum level of filtration efficiency is provided) and would like your opinion regarding which filters offer the best flow. Thanks!
You didn't ask me, but I would think that the biggest(as in oversize for your application) K&N oil filter would flow the best.
It's a lower effeciency filter, 90% IIRC, but lower restriction.
It's a lower effeciency filter, 90% IIRC, but lower restriction.
my filter tests show the flow. I found fram was the best flowing filter. the longer you keep a filter on the more it will saturate with oil and become more efficient.
I stopped using Fram orange cans years ago when I pulled them off after 3-4000 miles and the element was clunking around (loose) inside on way too many of them. They may or may not have improved since then. I still use Fram air filters wihout any issues.
Fram is just fine. But I use supertech since I can get them 2-3 bucks cheaper.
I'm with Bob. I have just dumped the oil in my Century 2002. 5600 miles on the oil and filter. I opened the regular Fram this morning and no tear, no hole no nothing, the filter is still glued to the end cap. Fram is almost the cheaper filter you can buy here in Canada, and so far they served me well, at least the served me like the higher price filters that I've tried .
I cut open a Fram and found it to be construced like #@$%!. It was not the Extended Guard, so I cannot comment on that filter. But the Fram I did cut open left me with a bad impression. I also cut open Motorcraft and Pure One. Both were excellent, and I'd use either before a Fram anyday.
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