Ford recalls over 850,000 cars in the US due to potential fuel pump failure

[GON]

Ford recalls over 850,000 cars in the US due to potential fuel pump failure.​

Having four Ford full frame vehicles in my driveway, I am struggling to justify buying Fords going forward. I have full empathy of design challenges from time to time. Seems like Ford is having more than just occasional design challenges. Something else is going on. My guess is Ford is trying to push the envelope, and cut costs at the same time.

Not relevant to this thread or recall, but my biggest gripe with Ford is the ever changing parts for the same model. I have zero confidence in long term part availability for Fords, as they changes parts so very often. It is frustrating how often I find Ford parts are discontinued.

"Ford is recalling more than 850,000 of its cars across the U.S. because the low-pressure fuel pump inside the vehicles may fail — and potentially cause an engine stall while driving, increasing crash risks.

The recall covers a wide range of Ford and Lincoln-branded vehicles made in recent model years. That includes certain Ford Broncos, Explorers and F-150s, as well as Lincoln Aviators and Navigators, documents published this week by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration note."

https://apnews.com/article/ford-recall-fuel-pump-failure-risk-183755aa39c4ffc355fc4697a4f8dbfb?

 

[demarpaint]

"Quality goes in before the name goes on." LOL That was Ford's slogan back in the day. I was once a fan boy, I gave up on them years ago.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Toyota has had this fuel pump issue for years.

Ford didn’t make the fuel pump.

I can’t believe I am defending Ford. If anyone deserves their quality bashed it’s Ford. Still a spade is a spade.

 

[mrsilv04]

Cars and trucks are nothing but an assemblage of parts made by the lowest bidder.

During the COVID years, it had to have been even worse than usual.

 

[Jetronic]

Are we entering a new malaise era?

I can't hear anything good about the big three it seems.

 

[demarpaint]

Toyota has had this fuel pump issue for years.

Ford didn’t make the fuel pump.

I can’t believe I am defending Ford. If anyone deserves their quality bashed it’s Ford. Still a spade is a spade.

No doubt, they all have issues. IMO Ford really dropped the ball a long time ago.

 

[Lubener]

Ford didn't make the fuel pumps so bashing Ford is ridiculous.

 

[BobsArmory]

Ford didn't make the fuel pumps so bashing Ford is ridiculous.

So if Amazon's house brand of Motrin was found to contain harmful ingredients made by a supplier in India, Amazon gets a free pass?

Ford went to their suppliers and looked at the different designs available and individual specs of each system and said, "This one looks OK and is the cheapest. Let's use this one". They are responsible for what goes into their products. They are culpable.

 

[GON]

Ford didn't make the fuel pumps so bashing Ford is ridiculous.

Ford specs the pump. Ford designs how the pump is mounted, what tank the pump is in, the gauge of wire delivering amps to the pump, the ground points for the pump, the distance the pump is required to deliver the fuel to the injectors, the fuel filter selection that may be internal or external to the fuel pump.

The pump itself may or may not be fine. It may be how the pump is implemented that is the issue.

Speculation Ford is trying to cut every ounce of weight, squeeze the most fuel efficiency, have the highest paper statistics, and make the very most profit. Recalls like this may be a result of that engineering mentality.

I would gladly give up a few horsepower, give up a little tow weight, give up a little fuel economy, and pay a little more money in exchange for reliability.

 

[KCJeep]

BITOG rule: Toyota gets a free pass for defective vendor supplied parts but Ford doesn’t.

 

[GON]

BITOG rule: Toyota gets a free pass for defective vendor supplied parts but Ford doesn’t.

From a Ford dealer website located in the state of Ohio:

Performance, Reliability, & Value​

Ford vehicles are built for performance, especially in the truck and SUV segments, with available turbocharged and hybrid engines across models like the F-150 and Escape. Toyota focuses on consistency and reliability, with many of its models, including the Corolla and RAV4, known to run well past 200,000 miles with proper care.

Ford models are often more budget-friendly upfront, offering great value on both new and used vehicles. Toyota vehicles, though often pricier to start, stand out in the long run for their value retention and lower maintenance costs, estimated at around $500 less per year.

https://www.tristateford.net/blogs/6808/ford-vs-toyota-brand-comparison

 

[Lubener]

So if Amazon's house brand of Motrin was found to contain harmful ingredients made by a supplier in India, Amazon gets a free pass?

Ford went to their suppliers and looked at the different designs available and individual specs of each system and said, "This one looks OK and is the cheapest. Let's use this one". They are responsible for what goes into their products. They are culpable.

Ford IS taking responsibilty. Bashing won't get you anywhere except satisfy your ego.

Why don't you go to Detroit and set up a protest if you are just aiming to argue.

 

[Pablo]

MY First new cars purchased:

84 VW Sirocco - fuel pump recall
85 SR5 pickup - fuel pump issues
88 S-10 Blazer - fuel system recall fix

Bunch of cars in between, I think all had some fuel system issues/recalls, Honda Ody fuel line recall fix

2019 Tacoma, fuel pump and fuel system recall.
2017 Honda, fuel system recall

Theme? Buy an electric car!!

 

[Vercingetorix]

There are two wheels to spin. One lists all the manufacturers. The other lists all the systems that can be recalled. My last spins came up Chrysler and catalytic converter.

 

[PF52]

"Quality goes in before the name goes on." LOL That was Ford's slogan back in the day. I was once a fan boy, I gave up on them years ago.

That was Zenith. Ford's slogan was Quality is Job 1.

 

[Zee09]

BITOG rule: Toyota gets a free pass for defective vendor supplied parts but Ford doesn’t.

Like the Chinese made heated seats...

 

[Zee09]

Getting an appointment to get these recalls fixed was my issue.... still waiting on an appointment for a truck I no longer own...
Thanks Ford

 

[supton]

BITOG rule: Toyota gets a free pass for defective vendor supplied parts but Ford doesn’t.

Which ones? I've not heard of fuel pump problems but I haven't exactly gone looking either.

I know Toyota and turbo isn't going very well right now. And when it comes to rust and frames...

 

[zzyzzx]

I expect this to happen a lot with high pressure pumps used in direct injection. Low pressure pumps for normal fuel injection, not so much.

 

[Pablo]

I expect this to happen a lot with high pressure pumps used in direct injection. Low pressure pumps for normal fuel injection, not so much.

It has happened with all sorts of intank pumps because some inner insulation/plastic/coating that is unsuitable with gasoline was subbed in by supplier or two to three tiers down the food chain.

Ask me how I know this.