Fluttering/Hesitation noise - Mazda 3

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We now have 34,000 on the 07 3. About a week or so ago, I started noticing a fluttering type noise when the rpms are low (1,800) and speed is around 40 mph. Usually in 4th gear. The car is an automatic. It basically occurs when you are trying to accelerate from low rpm/speed, and when you are gently applying the gas.

This is the first time I've noticed this type of hesitation with this car. So, I thought of checking the PCV valve, plugs and maybe changing the transmission fluid. Any other ideas?
 
Cleaning the throttle body?

Does the car actually stutter upon accel or is it just a noise?
 
I can't pin point where it is coming from. It only happens in a high gear, low rpm and while accelerating lightly around 40mph. Weird.
 
If your Mazda is basicly the same as my Focus, you might check the battery cover. I heard a fluttering sound under the hood and the cover turned out to be my problem. The flap that covers the battery cable connections rattled at time. Very noticeable noise.
 
Noises can be tough to diagnose. Especially over the internet.
Maybe an exhaust heat shield?
But you also mention a hesitation.
Only in 4th gear?
 
If there is a hesitation in acceleration, I would do a fuel induction service by running some Seafoam through the intake.
 
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Don't use seafoam in the intake. Please.
A good cleaner run through the gas tank is best, for all sorts of reasons.

Seafoam does a much better job of cleaning the carbon in the top-end of the engine.
 
be real careful with any kind of "induction service" stuff on that motor. the fly by wire throttle body is very easy to damage on those and we have actually replaced a few due to new lube techs not knowing how to do the job right.
 
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Don't use seafoam in the intake. Please.
A good cleaner run through the gas tank is best, for all sorts of reasons.

Seafoam does a much better job of cleaning the carbon in the top-end of the engine.


I would recommend that you STAY AWAY from Seafoam.

If you want to PROPERLY and SAFELY clean the induction system plenium USE A product like the 3M Induction system cleaner. It comes with all the parts and safely and effectively cleans without the risk of hydrolocking the engine....

I also agree with adding a couple of bottles of in tank cleaners like Gumout Regane Total Fuel System Cleaner or Techron Complete...They contain large amounts of PEA detergent which is proven to be the most effective gasoline detergent it effectively removes carbon deposits and DOES NOT leave its own residue behind.
 
I saw Buster's post this morning and wondered if he had come up with any answers yet. We have similar issues perhaps.

This week my son bought a repossessed 2006 Mazda 3, 2.3 hatchback 5 speed with 95,000 miles from an auction. The previous owner had over-sized the tires and modified the air filter and the exhaust systems. I am still trying to figure out exactly what was done, but the filter looks like a "K&N" brand canister type, and the exhaust tip is a "3R Racing" product. I don't know if it is just a tip or if the whole exhaust system was replaced. The sound it makes is just ridiculous. Although the whole "Tokyo Drift" thing is not his scene, he could live with the modifications if they are not causing problems. The car came at a good price even considering the immediate repairs that obviously needed to made (leaking front strut, and a burnt out master switch for the power windows.)

My son's car exhibits the same symptoms as Buster's. In addition, the noise gets considerably louder and faster when letting out the clutch going up hill from a dead stop. It is pretty intimidating. The intensity of the sound gave us the first indication that there may be a more serious issue than just a valve in need of adjustment. Call it a flutter, tap, click or a clack; it is likely a valve noise and hopefully not a rod bearing going bad. It idles fine...the noise is barely, if at all, noticeable. The transmission does not seem to be an issue, it shifts smoothly and if taken out of gear, the flutter can be duplicated when the RPMs are put in the 1800 to 2200 range.

I wonder if it could be related to the exhaust work causing some unwanted pressure change. I have also looked all over the net for information on adjusting the valves and have yet to find a clear answer. Some sources say they can be shimmed, other say that the only adjustment is to replace the lifters.

For first steps before we do some expensive poking around, I added Lucas upper cylinder lubricant to his first tank of gas and I'm going to add a half quart of Marvel to the very dirty oil. He'll drive it a bit before we do an oil change and replace the PCV and see if it responds at all. Any one out there who can offer some additional knowledge experiences, or troubleshooting thoughts for potential causes? Thanks.
 
I don't know about the 3, but the 6S has an unfortunate mounting location for the Purge Solenoid Valve. Center-top of the firewall. At low engine speeds and low engine load you can hear it operating. Mazda dealer remounted it on some rubber bushings and I took it back off and applied some dynamat under it. It's quieter but still can be heard under some conditions.

It sounds like a knock but it is not. It's just the Purge Solenoid doing what it is supposed to do. Doesn't really bother me anymore. It reassures me that it is working.

Some of the 6i's(same engine as the 3S) develop a vacuum leak in Variable Intake-Air Shutter Valve Actuator. It's commonly just a vacuum line leak, but it will make a fluttering noise.
 
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