Financial graphic comparison of buying a new or used car

And $10k used cars are abused money pits unless you are able to DIY.
You need to have $2k -$4k liquid to repair your $10k car. If not buy newer.

I always wonder how and when the arbitrary $10K figure entered into the conversation and why it's often cited as indisputable fact. For those willing to do their homework, there are myriad solid cars available for far less. The above statements are simply untrue...especially if you know how and where to look - and what to look for. I've found the key to finding a real bargain is to focus on what may be considered an uncool, yet historically reliable car.

I just helped a friend in Florida locate and purchase a car for his college-bound son. Found a one-owner 2004 LeSabre with 41K miles and complete dealer service history. Totally rust-free FL car with ice-cold A/C and the venerable 3800 V-6. With care should run for decades. The price? $4800.00. And while I think that's a bit spendy, all the car needs is a set of tires -- which should run no more than $400-$450.

A few months ago I bought a 1999 Mercury Sable wagon from a dude in central California. 91K one-owner miles and dealer maintained from day one. Absolutely spotless and rust-free, with the only visible damage being a baseball-sized dent (without paint breakage) near the top of the LF fender. Will need a new rear wiper motor at some point. Everything else works, and the owner recently installed a new set of Michelin tires. Set me back $2200.00. My son (stationed in CA) is using the car while he's on the west coast. The 3.0L Vulcan V-6, while not powerful or torquey, has an excellent reputation for longevity. My last Taurus with that engine (a 1990) performed perfectly until I sold it with 172K miles before heading overseas. I can reasonably expect similar long life from this wagon.

I believe people tend to equate newer with better and therefore shy away from older cars. Perhaps they can't live without Apple Car Play, heated seats, and/or similar frivolities. Or perhaps image is more important to them and they don't want to be seen in an old Buick or a station wagon. I don't know. What I'm reasonably sure of, however, is that most of what I buy will still be on the road long after most of today's disposable trash has assumed its rightful place in the scrapyard. And I won't overspend in the process, leaving plenty of money for things that truly matter.
 
There are a lot of factors involved in buying a car that aren’t covered in the video or even discussed much on this forum. I’m older with some physical limitations, so I need something reliable for frequent road trips through the desert. My current car is a muscle car that drinks fuel, and there’s no $10k car I’d trust for that kind of driving. I’ve had car payments most of my life, but this is one of the few vehicles I’ve fully paid off, and it still has plenty of life left. I’d rather spend $30k on a new drivetrain than take on another car loan. 🤷‍♂️
 
A realistic alternative story would be Sarah buying a 3 year old Camry/Civic/Corolla/Mazda 3 (+/- with a few payments then investing the rest) and Sam buying a new BMW 3 series. Very plausible purchases for young people with $10,000. After 6 years who is ahead (Sarah of course - and she still has a reliable car) and by how much (plenty).

Buying a more expensive depreciating asset will beat you every time. Even more so if you buy an expensive rapidly depreciating asset (like a BMW).

PS I recently owned a BMW, bought 3 years old because the 5 series depreciates so rapidly. Kept it for 18 years. It was reliable, and had relatively low maintenance. But I was lucky.
 
How much does Sarah spend to keep the clunker running? Also Sarah has to keep spending 10k every 3 years to keep a reliable vehicle . Glad I not Sarah.
Looking at how much I spent on my last $10k car, albeit purchased in 2017 and sold in 2024, M&R wasn't even 30% of the purchase price over 7 years and 130k miles.

Fuel was $11990, M&R was $2760 and about $1k on tax and tags.

M&R was the 2nd cheapest part of owning the car.
 
I like the older cars but always have a dilemma about it: when I was younger I could be more reckless about life. I still am but now have kids who borrow my cars. ABS and side airbags? what might have happened if the car that my daughter flipped had VSC/TC? maybe it would have just beeped at her instead of having the rear kick out.

I refuse to buy a car that doesn't have ABS. It's always tempting but in our snow and ice it just seems unwise. Getting to that point on side airbags ('cuz it's always the other driver we worry about hitting us, since all of us are above average drivers).
 
I always wonder how and when the arbitrary $10K figure entered into the conversation and why it's often cited as indisputable fact. For those willing to do their homework, there are myriad solid cars available for far less. The above statements are simply untrue...especially if you know how and where to look - and what to look for. I've found the key to finding a real bargain is to focus on what may be considered an uncool, yet historically reliable car.

I believe people tend to equate newer with better and therefore shy away from older cars.
I think you underestimate your skill set in both finding and maintaining these old cars. Also around here, most shops will not touch a car that is 10+ years old - so now you require the skill set to find and develop a relationship with a indy mechanic if you can't DIY.

Lets face it - if your active on this website your a freak of nature. Most people wouldn't know where to start looking for a 20 year old car or a deal on oil filters. :ROFLMAO:
 
Then they especially cannot afford a new car payment.
I'm confused. What does that have to do with anything when your employer says "Here's X$/mo to spend on a company car".

Edit: NVM, you were probably responding to the $4k bill. It's not spending the $4k bill but wondering if there's another right behind it. Dropping $6k/yr in payments with a warranty gives people peace of mind. Kinda like wasting money on early oil changes.
 
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The graphic leaves out the part where five years later Sarah was raped and murdered when her now worn-out clunker broke down when she was passing through the bad part of town.

There's a saying: "penny wise, pound foolish." Both of these people made choices on the extremes of the spectrum, and the extremes of spectrums are rarely where you find the best ideas.
 
My usual approach is to buy a one to two year old car (preferably a CPO), pay it off in 1-2 years and keep it for 6-8 years. Depreciation is my friend and it allows me to own cars that I truly enjoy driving. I have only bought new when I wanted a car that was relatively rare and/or was not available used- that was the case with the Club Sport (only 200 were built) and the Mazdaspeed 3. I ordered the Club Sport while it took a wide-ranging dealer search to find an MS3 that was equipped as I wanted. I still have the Club Sport and I kept the Mazdaspeed for almost 9 years.
Life is too short to drive boring cars.
 
The graphic leaves out the part where five years later Sarah was raped and murdered when her now worn-out clunker broke down when she was passing through the bad part of town.

There's a saying: "penny wise, pound foolish." Both of these people made choices on the extremes of the spectrum, and the extremes of spectrums are rarely where you find the best ideas.
A 10k used car is an extreme choice now?
 
I like the older cars but always have a dilemma about it: when I was younger I could be more reckless about life. I still am but now have kids who borrow my cars. ABS and side airbags? what might have happened if the car that my daughter flipped had VSC/TC? maybe it would have just beeped at her instead of having the rear kick out.

I refuse to buy a car that doesn't have ABS. It's always tempting but in our snow and ice it just seems unwise. Getting to that point on side airbags ('cuz it's always the other driver we worry about hitting us, since all of us are above average drivers).
My 96 Cutlass had ABS. Worked quite well. How far back would you have to go to not have ABS?

Had front airbags too. Side airbags are pretty recent I think?
 
A 10k used car is an extreme choice now?
Yes. The world has changed.

Inflation, and shortage of supply, has meant that $10,000 gets you a beater. The couple of examples exist only for those who already have specific car expertise, and the ability to spend a lot of time looking.

A busy person who doesn’t know much about cars is going have to go down to a dealer or whatever, and plunk down $20,000+ if they want a reasonable, middle of the road sedan built in the past 5 years.

A $10,000 car gets you a several year old Corolla. That’s not a car that fits everyone’s needs.

The group on this forum represents a narrow slice of demographics. People who know about cars, people who can fix their own cars, people who are able to spend lots of time searching. Most people exist outside this set of definitions.

Most people don’t have the time, expertise or inclination to go searching around for a $4000 used 25 year-old Buick.

That’s the reality.
 
I think you underestimate your skill set in both finding and maintaining these old cars. Also around here, most shops will not touch a car that is 10+ years old - so now you require the skill set to find and develop a relationship with a indy mechanic if you can't DIY.

Lets face it - if your active on this website your a freak of nature. Most people wouldn't know where to start looking for a 20 year old car or a deal on oil filters. :ROFLMAO:
That sounds a bit crazy south of the rust belt? I guess we tend towards KISS vehicles, but almost nothing breaks before ten years? The odd suspension piece, and brakes? I guess dealers like $500-1000 service packages for a couple hours of work and some fluids...
No surprises with 6 year old non-rusty cars, keeps it simple for them I guess.
 
Yes. The world has changed.

Inflation, and shortage of supply, has meant that $10,000 gets you a beater. The couple of examples exist only for those who already have specific car expertise, and the ability to spend a lot of time looking.

A busy person who doesn’t know much about cars is going have to go down to a dealer or whatever, and plunk down $20,000+ if they want a reasonable, middle of the road sedan built in the past 5 years.

A $10,000 car gets you a several year old Corolla. That’s not a car that fits everyone’s needs.

The group on this forum represents a narrow slice of demographics. People who know about cars, people who can fix their own cars, people who are able to spend lots of time searching. Most people exist outside this set of definitions.

Most people don’t have the time, expertise or inclination to go searching around for a $4000 used 25 year-old Buick.

That’s the reality.
Yep, went truck free in 2020 for the first time in my life. After a year, started checking used prices on LT’s ? Well, I was born at night - but not last night …
I can use big SUV’s and utility trailers before I’m paying $20k for high mileage equipment I know nothing about … 😳
 
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