Fiat Freemont spotted today=Dodge Journey
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Yes, shameless. Just like the Eagle Talon and Plymouth Laser...
Wait, what's the problem again?
Wait, what's the problem again?
Jeez, slap on the Fiat logos, raise the price a little- BAM! FIAT!!! JK, kinda stupid
Who cares about Fiat. Not my cup of tea.... hope i didn't hurt anyones feelings.
That's a dumb and lazy way to build a Fiat lineup in the US. I guess the geniuses at Chrysler/Fiat decided the brand needed the ubiquitous "AWD crossover mall family utility adventure thing" to get sales.
They would be much better off making Fiat a niche brand with its own vehicles. Sure, they probably won't sell in huge numbers, but neither will a rebadge of a very uninspiring vehicle (aside from the engine). Couldn't they have at least changed the body work a little?
This sort of stuff is what finally killed off Isuzu passenger vehicles. They never dominated the SUV market, but Troopers and Rodeos were pretty common back in the 1990s. They were good enough for Honda to sell them as the Passport and SLX. When they hit hard times in the 1990s and couldn't afford to design replacements, GM gave them the TrailBlazer, previously cloned four times already (Olds, Buick, GMC, Saab versions), and the Colorado. Didn't work, Isuzu died. Now all they sell is light/medium duty commercial trucks.
They would be much better off making Fiat a niche brand with its own vehicles. Sure, they probably won't sell in huge numbers, but neither will a rebadge of a very uninspiring vehicle (aside from the engine). Couldn't they have at least changed the body work a little?
This sort of stuff is what finally killed off Isuzu passenger vehicles. They never dominated the SUV market, but Troopers and Rodeos were pretty common back in the 1990s. They were good enough for Honda to sell them as the Passport and SLX. When they hit hard times in the 1990s and couldn't afford to design replacements, GM gave them the TrailBlazer, previously cloned four times already (Olds, Buick, GMC, Saab versions), and the Colorado. Didn't work, Isuzu died. Now all they sell is light/medium duty commercial trucks.
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Maybe it's being tested in the US for European consumption? IIRC Europe's supposed to get the Freemont pretty soon. Seeing how it's basically a Dodge it makes sense to have the vehicle tested near the factory...
Hang around the roads around Chrysler Technical Center or the Chelsea proving grounds long enough, and you'll see a bunch of Alfa Romeos that are never going to see a showroom in the U.S. either. I live near GM's Milford proving grounds, and I'd like to have a nickel for every Opel I see on the roads here. European Fords aren't so easy to spot, but I'm reasonably sure I've seen at least a couple of European Foci running around on I-96 in the last year.
As an aside, it was kind of cool when I saw my first Chevy Volt last summer (in the parking lot at O'Reilly's in Brighton on a Saturday morning) but then they just got old after a while...
As an aside, it was kind of cool when I saw my first Chevy Volt last summer (in the parking lot at O'Reilly's in Brighton on a Saturday morning) but then they just got old after a while...
The new Journey actually gets favorable reviews. I like it. This Fiat does seem kind of pointless.
There's got to be some others like me who don't have the best image when we think of Fiat.
The Journey-based Fiat is for European markets, not the U.S. You're not going to see a Fiat Freemont next to a 500 at your local dealer anytime soon.
That said, it's is supposidly doing very well in Europe. In early Sumer, the Toluca plant had to increase product to keep up with demand.
That said, it's is supposidly doing very well in Europe. In early Sumer, the Toluca plant had to increase product to keep up with demand.
It will do well in Europe, the Journey is one of if not the best offering from Chrysler right now. I like it quite a bit, both exterior looks right down to interior styling and the new engine option. Nice vehicle.
Originally Posted By: leeharvey418
Hang around the roads around Chrysler Technical Center or the Chelsea proving grounds long enough, and you'll see a bunch of Alfa Romeos that are never going to see a showroom in the U.S. either. I live near GM's Milford proving grounds, and I'd like to have a nickel for every Opel I see on the roads here. European Fords aren't so easy to spot, but I'm reasonably sure I've seen at least a couple of European Foci running around on I-96 in the last year.
As an aside, it was kind of cool when I saw my first Chevy Volt last summer (in the parking lot at O'Reilly's in Brighton on a Saturday morning) but then they just got old after a while...
I don't live too far from you, and I see a lot of cool cars with manufacturer plates. Everything from Holdens, to Alfas, to Euro Foci, etc. There is a guy who's car I see on a weekly basis, an Alfa Giulietta. It's a pretty nice looking car. I heard they are going to re-badge it as a Dodge and sell it here
all because of ignorant American consumers.
Hang around the roads around Chrysler Technical Center or the Chelsea proving grounds long enough, and you'll see a bunch of Alfa Romeos that are never going to see a showroom in the U.S. either. I live near GM's Milford proving grounds, and I'd like to have a nickel for every Opel I see on the roads here. European Fords aren't so easy to spot, but I'm reasonably sure I've seen at least a couple of European Foci running around on I-96 in the last year.
As an aside, it was kind of cool when I saw my first Chevy Volt last summer (in the parking lot at O'Reilly's in Brighton on a Saturday morning) but then they just got old after a while...
I don't live too far from you, and I see a lot of cool cars with manufacturer plates. Everything from Holdens, to Alfas, to Euro Foci, etc. There is a guy who's car I see on a weekly basis, an Alfa Giulietta. It's a pretty nice looking car. I heard they are going to re-badge it as a Dodge and sell it here
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It will do well in Europe, the Journey is one of if not the best offering from Chrysler right now. I like it quite a bit, both exterior looks right down to interior styling and the new engine option. Nice vehicle.
It's also practical. Have you seen how many darned storage compartments that thing has on the inside?!
It will do well in Europe, the Journey is one of if not the best offering from Chrysler right now. I like it quite a bit, both exterior looks right down to interior styling and the new engine option. Nice vehicle.
It's also practical. Have you seen how many darned storage compartments that thing has on the inside?!
Don't Forget about the new Maserati SUV, based on the Durango,
the upcoming Caliber replacement based on the Alfa Romeo Giulietta, ...kind of, same platform but widened to "Suit American Tastes"(More like "to suit American Waists" says the 300Lb guy) which they apparently did to the 500 as well.and should be made in Belvedere IL, where Chrysler has made the Caliber, Neon,etc.
and that current Chrysler products are being rebadged as Lancias in Europe as we speak.
the upcoming Caliber replacement based on the Alfa Romeo Giulietta, ...kind of, same platform but widened to "Suit American Tastes"(More like "to suit American Waists" says the 300Lb guy) which they apparently did to the 500 as well.and should be made in Belvedere IL, where Chrysler has made the Caliber, Neon,etc.
and that current Chrysler products are being rebadged as Lancias in Europe as we speak.
I suppose it speaks well of newer Chryco developed products that Fiat has decided to use them in Europe.
The Mopar Minivans were built in Austria for years in the late 1980's early 1990's.
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