Europe's plan to fix over tourism crisis

There is always something in Vegas, though June-October is generally cheaper.
But Vegas tourism numbers are in drastic decline, so things this year were much cheaper. On the other hand, I have already had to lower the price of the rental units I have there twice since February. It is a really bleak economic environment.
What part of LV are your units?
 
Yes, and half is in Charleston. It can go away tomorrow for all most of us care.
Could it be that your "most of us" aren't involved in any aspect of tourism or related industries ?
I'm not saying crowds of strangers improve life or make it more enjoyable for local residents...heck, with our beach house, I count the days to Labor Day starting Memorial Day, in fact, we call the shoulder season "local summer" because most of hordes are gone. But the local businesses make 90% of their year from MDW-LDW.
 
Could it be that your "most of us" aren't involved in any aspect of tourism or related industries ?
I'm not saying crowds of strangers improve life or make it more enjoyable for local residents...heck, with our beach house, I count the days to Labor Day starting Memorial Day, in fact, we call the shoulder season "local summer" because most of hordes are gone. But the local businesses make 90% of their year from MDW-LDW.
Like I said, I have lived it. The people profiting from the "tourism" are not locals for the most part.

I also question your numbers. Not saying you didn't see them somewhere, but their is no normal statistic for "tourism". There are industry codes, like real estate/rental and leasing, professional services, food service, etc. You would have to assign some portion to "tourists" How do I know if your staying at a hotel your here for tourism, or your fulfilling a contract at the port, Volvo, MUSC, Boeing, Nucor whatever? Never trust data you haven't manipulated yourself.

No doubt people getting rich off tourism in Charleston, but only a few, and not local. The largest industry in Charleston is Health care (the states 3 largest hospitals are here, MUSC, VA and a private system - many people in the state come here for complex care. Followed by manufacturing. We have the second largest port on the East Coast. So no, we wouldn't miss it for the most part. I am sure some property managers and corporates would.

For what its worth, I don't have an issue with someone owning a second home here and living here seasonally. I really don't consider them "tourists", more like part time residents. They do push housing prices up, but its not the same level of problem.
 
Like I said, I have lived it. The people profiting from the "tourism" are not locals for the most part.

I also question your numbers. Not saying you didn't see them somewhere, but their is no normal statistic for "tourism". There are industry codes, like real estate/rental and leasing, professional services, food service, etc. You would have to assign some portion to "tourists" How do I know if your staying at a hotel your here for tourism, or your fulfilling a contract at the port, Volvo, MUSC, Boeing, Nucor whatever? Never trust data you haven't manipulated yourself.

No doubt people getting rich off tourism in Charleston, but only a few, and not local. The largest industry in Charleston is Health care (the states 3 largest hospitals are here, MUSC, VA and a private system - many people in the state come here for complex care. Followed by manufacturing. We have the second largest port on the East Coast. So no, we wouldn't miss it for the most part. I am sure some property managers and corporates would.

For what its worth, I don't have an issue with someone owning a second home here and living here seasonally. I really don't consider them "tourists", more like part time residents. They do push housing prices up, but its not the same level of problem.
AI generated stats from asking what percent of each states economy is tourism.
 
It's not the tourist, BUT the type of tourism they get. Day-Trippers & a Tsunami of them disgorged by huge cruise ships is not
what they want. These "Tourists" even bring their lunch-box with them, duly prepared by the ship's kitchen, so NO business for
local eateries. Knick-Knack sellers though do very well.
 
I used to live in a touristy town in the Mediterranean. You simply stayed out of the hot spots and there was a distinct division of where tourists went and where the locals went. For example, tourists went to restaurants 3-4 times as expensive as the local places and consumed sub-standard food. Locals hung around in different bars and night clubs.

Did the real estate prices go up? Yes, in places where they could build hotels. All the prime real estate were either hotels or villas for multi-millionaires from overseas. The government made sure that all the beaches were public, though.
I stayed in Amalfi Italy last fall for 2 weeks in a flat about 25 steps (up of course) from the main area. About 4 or 5 PM the bus and ship excursions had left and things settled down a lot. Even though I was a tourist I preferred it when those "other tourists" left for the day
 
I don't remember if I saw female shop keepers there or not, but otherwise for a predominant Islamic country, Turkiye, especially Istanbul, is (or at least was, since I last checked) more laid back and progressive about some of those very different cultural trends than most other predominant Islamic nations. But it is still Islamic, and it's a very different culture than ours. That has both pros and cons, just like our culture has its pros and cons. The common view and treatment of women, I would say is one of the biggest cons, but since I don't want Mr. Serious Social Justice Warrior to get offended again, I'm not going into depth about that.

I just chuckled to myself a bit with the imagery of the Love Boat theme song playing and people raising up arms, and it reminded me of my experience traveling there years ago. What I mentioned originally wasn't a big deal at the time or now, just slightly annoying. I'm a quiet, introvert that sleeps very lightly (especially when I can't cool down well), and generally don't like loud noises.
 
There is a lot of local discontent in the more heavily visited areas.
In Barcelona, the locals are already spraying the tourists with water:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...S&cvid=607e20a1fe3e43e6988ecc6eeeff4a9c&ei=68
The staff of the Louvre went on strike today in protest of excessive numbers of visitors:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/louvre-closed-overtourism-1.7562138

Istanbul is a different matter, since it is such a large city, even the Sultanahmet and Fatih districts where many tourists go are large in themselves.
There has probably never been a cheaper time to visit Europe. There are so many seats across the North Atlantic and so fares are quite low. Accommodations in most cities are also reasonable and if you plan properly you can be in a very walkable location.
It isn't just Americans either. As was noted above there are growing numbers of Asia tourists and Brits and Germans have always been a major part of the tourist populations of Spain and Italy.
The Canaries have also had protests over excessive numbers of tourists, and almost none of them are either Asian or American.
Not sure what the answer is, but I do know that there are a lot of really interesting places to visit in Europe not yet discovered by the hoards.
That will be our next journey, after the one we're taking next month. We'll see just how bad it will be in Venice not to mention Dubrovnik.
Thank God that the Bezos wedding will have come and gone by the time we are in Venice.
 
BBC article on Europe's plan to fix over tourism crisis.

Tourism is important to the European economy, yet a growing number of locals are resenting the ever increasing number of tourists.

Article discusses ways to keep the locals happy while keeping the tourists dollars flowing.

https://bbc.com/travel/article/20250613-can-europe-beat-the-overtourism-crisis
Well their demonstrations might repel tourists. A lot of them going on now.
Sure, but problems are different between big industrial, port cities and small towns that have for example, 5,000 residents (if so). Barcelona can restrict Airbnb. However, some small towns on the Mediterranean absolutely cannot. Then, when governments pass laws, rarely do those laws, regardless of where, satisfy everyone. I think trying to restrict things might create the opposite effect for many family businesses. As you said, it should be left to local governments, but that rarely happens.

But really big issue, compared to let's say 20yrs ago, is huge Chinese middle class. They have money, and they travel, and European cities are still as small as they were before. Then add other South Asian countries whose GDP skyrocketed over the last 20 years, and their population is not small. Last time I was in Dubrovnik during the season, the cruise people were primarily Asian.
All with Nikons?
 
Myrtle Beach has a million or more visitors a year. That certainly is a big part.
I am sure its more than that. I read somewhere half the tourist revenue is in the Charleston area. Which makes me wonder who collects such data and from where. We do charge a lot, so maybe.

I would guess 80% of the entire state or more is Myrtle / Charleston and HHI. HHI gets 300K on PGA weekend alone. You literally can't move. The schools take that week off. They call it spring break even though its quite late. The reality is they could never get the kids to school.
 
I treasure memories of holidays over the last 50 years in many European countries and in the US and Canada. One things for sure is that they haven't improved over time. These days I have an overseas holiday in March and early October when the weather is reasonable and the destination free of the worst of the crowds. I wouldn't dream of going in mid summer when it's generally too hot and too crowded.
 
It's not the tourist, BUT the type of tourism they get. Day-Trippers & a Tsunami of them disgorged by huge cruise ships is not
what they want. These "Tourists" even bring their lunch-box with them, duly prepared by the ship's kitchen, so NO business for
local eateries. Knick-Knack sellers though do very well.
I have traveled on many Princess Cruises in the Mediterranean and Caribbean. Never saw anyone bringing a lunch packed by the ship's kitchen . Maybe a bottle of water but never a lunch
 
Coastal Maine has the same issues as every other tourist hot spot. My kids both have summer food service jobs and they actually enjoy them! Great people watching and decent tips. Air Bnb has upended the typical tourist resource pool by adding beds, so now restaurant tables, beachfront parking etc are impossible to find.

Oil and plane fares are cheap and the economy's doing well for a bunch of people, despite what nay-sayers say.
 
I have traveled on many Princess Cruises in the Mediterranean and Caribbean. Never saw anyone bringing a lunch packed by the ship's kitchen . Maybe a bottle of water but never a lunch
It may be different from place to place, but I've seen it in Venice where not only they eat the lunch-box but they leave it behind as garbage. I suppose the venetian prices are too high for mass tourism. (they are high)
 
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