Don't try to rob elderly tourists
- Thread starter MarkC
- Start date
- Status
In the USA the old guy would be in the slammer begging for mercy, the dead guy's family would be rich after the law suit, the two assailants who ran would be on the talk show circuit and there would be riots because a white guy killed a minority.
Unfortunately, you are correct. I'm kinda surprised they're not all being held for further questioning.
I for one am glad to see people standing up for themselves. 2 burgulars were killed here in Dallas this week during a home invasion...the homeowner managed to get his gun and blew them both away. I love it.
I for one am glad to see people standing up for themselves. 2 burgulars were killed here in Dallas this week during a home invasion...the homeowner managed to get his gun and blew them both away. I love it.
Good for them, a job well done. Good to see that the perpetrator was the only decedent for once.
"Not as lean, not as mean, but still a MARINE"
................................................
Respectfully, no, Pablo's not correct. In the last year or so, just in Pensacola, we've had two cases in which parties either killed or severely injured an assailant, and the State's Attorney declined to take any action because they found the use of force to be proper and justified. Folks should not be surprised when the use of deadly force is examined by authorities, as it's of course their job to make sure that no law has been broken. Sorry, but I'm not seeing all this softness for criminals that so many like to make so much noise about. Hey, it stopped being the 1970s 27 years ago. . .
Allow me to clarify. Only in WA state would the above scenario play out. We ARE stuck in the 1970's. It's never the criminal's fault......but I do hope you are correct.
Nah, in WA, everybody's guilty until proven otherwise, and even then, it's questionable. Pretty much everything is against the law, evidently. They just want everyone in counseling. That'll fix everything.
With the exception of child molestation and burglary, of course.
Well, when I left NAS Whidbey Island in 86, having spent about a year there, I was convinced that it hadn't stopped raining in Washington since the 1970s. . .
Of course, every state has its own unique culture and legal landscape. Especially in NW FL, those who legitimately use force to defend themselves (especially if it's on or in their own property) have virtually nothing to fear from the authorities.
Of course, every state has its own unique culture and legal landscape. Especially in NW FL, those who legitimately use force to defend themselves (especially if it's on or in their own property) have virtually nothing to fear from the authorities.
Seattle = 33"
Pensacola = 63"
What is the average annual rainfall?
Pensacola = 63"
What is the average annual rainfall?
Castle Doctrine,, Law first passed in Fla. now becoming law in many states. Allows person being assaulted to stand their ground and use lethal force if necessary. GREAT idea! Many here in the US are sick of the scenairo posted by Pablo (regretfully still all too true in large part of nation). Concealed Carry and Castle Doctrine laws are proof there are still some right minded politicians and citizens pushing them in the proper direction.
Bob
Bob
Nice work!
It was good work for sure.
Down here, he would be history. Only people who can get away with that sort of stunt are pub bouncers who chase people 100 yards away from their designated "patrol" area.
Down here, even one of the worst underworld scum in histroy can run tours, showing where he shot people, dumped bodies, go on talk shows etc.
http://www.chopperread.com/
Down here, he would be history. Only people who can get away with that sort of stunt are pub bouncers who chase people 100 yards away from their designated "patrol" area.
Down here, even one of the worst underworld scum in histroy can run tours, showing where he shot people, dumped bodies, go on talk shows etc.
http://www.chopperread.com/
Here in Chicago I see this too often. The crooks has the law backing them and honest people have to take their abuse and dail 911 and wait for police to arrive. Excessive force that results in death or injury is a lottery winning to crooks. Two year ago a woman was shot and killed in her home by a ex, she had called police repeatedly and they never showed. On the final call the tape had her on the line while her door was being kicked in, with her screeming you could hear the gun going off. The two police officers who were to respond took 25min to show, their excuss was " they were on break". They are both still on the force to this day. Matter of fact if someone breaks into your home within city limits you have no right to defend your life or family, gun ownership in Chicago is ILLEGAL.
It's the lawmaker's efforts to prevent vigilante justice. I heard of 1 case in Texas where the criminal had the balls to sue the person that had acted in self defense...and WON. If memory serves, the would-be robber lost an eye. Pablo definitely isn't speaking out of turn about this....it happens. Texas law requires that you retreat whenever possible, making what these elderly folks did illegal. If it had happened here, I assure you there would be a criminal trial, followed by a civil suit. The only time you're justified to harm or kill is if 1) The intruder is in your home, AND 2) You suspect imminant harm to yourself. Several cops have told me jokingly that if I kill someone on my front porch, I better drag him inside. There's very little 'just' in our justice system.
In Kennesaw, GA every homeowner must have a gun and ammo by law. Bet anyone breaking into a home there must be a little nervous knowing he might get shot by a #@$%! off homeowner.
http://news.netscape.com/story/2006/09/23/gun-ownership-manditory-crime-plummits-in-kennesaw-georgia
http://news.netscape.com/story/2006/09/23/gun-ownership-manditory-crime-plummits-in-kennesaw-georgia
I wouldn't mind living there ^^ (Kennesaw, GA)
Quote:
Seattle = 33"
Pensacola = 63"
What is the average annual rainfall?
Actually, it's..
"If you like damp, cool weather, an overcast sky, and a mild climate, Seattle is the place for you. If you like hot and sunny weather, you will not want to live in Seattle.
No, it does not rain all the time in Seattle. Many large cities on the USA east coast (i.e., Atlanta, New York, Washington D.C.) receive more annual precipitation than Seattle. However, when it stops raining in these east coast cities, the sky clears. In Seattle, when it stops raining, the sky stays overcast. The rain in Seattle is usually a light or fine misty rain. The normal average annual precipitation total for Seattle is 37.07 inches.
Summers in Seattle are usually warm, dry, and sunny, with long days and cool nights. The driest time of year in Seattle is the last half of July and the first half of August. During this time period, Seattle will often go ten, twenty, or thirty days without any measurable precipitation. The warm, mild weather often continues into fall, with cooler temperatures at night --- the rainy season in Seattle doesn't officially begin until October 1. Winter is the wettest season in Seattle. Spring in Seattle is mild and green, but it can be very wet at times."
Total rain for January 2007: 6.22 inches.
Total rain for January 2006: 11.65 inches.
January normally gets 5.13 inches of rain.
Total rain January-December 2006: 48.42 inches.
Total rain January-December 2005: 35.63 inches.
January through December normally gets 37.07 inches of rain.
What gets you is the 225 or so cloudy days per year.
If Seattle wasn't in the rain shadow of the Olympic Mountains, it would be wetter.
- Joined
- Sep 28, 2002
- Messages
- 39,798
Quote:
................................................
Respectfully, no, Pablo's not correct. In the last year or so, just in Pensacola, we've had two cases in which parties either killed or severely injured an assailant, and the State's Attorney declined to take any action because they found the use of force to be proper and justified. Folks should not be surprised when the use of deadly force is examined by authorities, as it's of course their job to make sure that no law has been broken. Sorry, but I'm not seeing all this softness for criminals that so many like to make so much noise about. Hey, it stopped being the 1970s 27 years ago. . .
Well, you make a good argument there, ekpolk ...but you don't even have to use lethal force to get a prison term. There are two border patrol officers serving 12 year sentences for wounding a smuggler who was attempting to escape back into Mexico. DEA? no problem. Politically buoyant border issues?? Big problem. I can cite many ..including the infamous Rodney King ..where I analyzed both sides of the issue (a signature test that I have to perform) and found alternatives unwarranted and not mandated given the circumstances. One shop owner rigged his skylight with electricty. The flaming low life thief ..who put himself at risk since he was a low life stinking worthless eater who surely needed to be thinned from the herd of those who the world is a better place without ...died. I say that he killed himself due to his own inability to manage to meet the minimum standards of deserving a place on the planet.
A home owner had a dog. Young low life worthless eater punks broke into his house and got maimed ..parents, also flaming low life useless eaters since they didn't manage raise law abiding citizens, sued and won.
No one minds justice ...as blind as it is supposed to be. But compensating for someone's social decompensation is merely punishing the victim. The criminal put themselves at risk and outside of the normal protection of the law that law abiding citizens deserve and are entitled to. There's an "implied consent" to release society from such assured rights when you choose to violate the rights of another. Criminals cannot dispose of the law when convenient and apply it when it suits them ...nor should the society do it in their behalf.
Now naturally, there has to be some sense of "sensible". You don't want someone killing someone over stealing hubcaps. OTOH...
If I plant land mines in my yard since all of my attempts to stop thieves from breaking into my property have failed...and I post, conspicuously, that trespassing was not allowed ,, in multiple languages, had 6' high fences surrounding the mine field ...AND the person blown up was IN FACT attempting to rob the said property ...didn't he get what he deserved? Administered by his own willful act???
- Status
