Since it's recommended for most new FORDS?
Does FORD dealerships use MC 5w-20 premium syth blend as their bulk oil?
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How would anyone know? It's very easy to have a bulk oil wholesaler send an oil delivery tanker right to a dealership to refill an empty drum with the cheapest oil available - hopefully virgin SM spec in the correct visosity. That doesn't mean all dealerships do that or that delivered bulk oil is inferior. What it does mean is that it's impossible to verify unless you have access to the delivery receipts. (Unless you're the service manager's favorite nephew, fat chance of that...) If you're really concerned and don't want to trouble yourself with doing your own oil changes, BUY the brand you prefer by the jug and have the dealership change it out for you while you watch.
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It can't be required. This is what inspired the temporary disappearance of it from WM shelves. The dealers allegedly said if you're going to cut our throats with selling it to the #1 discount retailer ..at a major discount ..we're going eleswhere for our Ford spec 5w-20 oil.
Either the dealers bought cheaper offerings anyway, or the loss of WM made them not matter in terms of sales
Ray, I get the impression that everytime someone hears "bulk" and add the word "cheap" that it's somehow a underground thing ..brokered by fly-by-night oil blenders travelling in a gypsy convoy. Oil reps slash each others throats all the time. I talk to the local PZ/SOPUS rep from time to time. He's losing and stealing accounts all the time. When he saw my Schaeffer's hat ..he groaned ..and I've never seen a Shaeffer's product sold in the area. Bulk oil is delivered in a tanker and deposited in a tank for central delivery systems. Sure anyone can order a 55 gallon drum of whatever they want ..but it isn't the most economical way to buy oil. Any bulk supplier and any bulk user that would mislabel or misbrand a 5w-20 oil that didn't meet Ford spec's (there's a reason that 5w-20 didn't exist until a few years ago in a semi-synth) would be taking a tremendous risk that could include jail time. This is unlikely given the highly competitive nature on the supply side of the equation. The vendor is always offered a better deal.
To really pull off what some here seem to suggest would probably only be within the grasp of someone like a JiffyLube type outfit that had enough purchasing clout to have a lame oil produced at a discount to what they could buy the real deal ..and have the economy to distribute it.
Every oil, just about, is "cheap bulk oil" if you're a big enough customer. It's the "real deal" in every way, shape, and form as the stuff you buy in a quart container.
Either the dealers bought cheaper offerings anyway, or the loss of WM made them not matter in terms of sales
Ray, I get the impression that everytime someone hears "bulk" and add the word "cheap" that it's somehow a underground thing ..brokered by fly-by-night oil blenders travelling in a gypsy convoy. Oil reps slash each others throats all the time. I talk to the local PZ/SOPUS rep from time to time. He's losing and stealing accounts all the time. When he saw my Schaeffer's hat ..he groaned ..and I've never seen a Shaeffer's product sold in the area. Bulk oil is delivered in a tanker and deposited in a tank for central delivery systems. Sure anyone can order a 55 gallon drum of whatever they want ..but it isn't the most economical way to buy oil. Any bulk supplier and any bulk user that would mislabel or misbrand a 5w-20 oil that didn't meet Ford spec's (there's a reason that 5w-20 didn't exist until a few years ago in a semi-synth) would be taking a tremendous risk that could include jail time. This is unlikely given the highly competitive nature on the supply side of the equation. The vendor is always offered a better deal.
To really pull off what some here seem to suggest would probably only be within the grasp of someone like a JiffyLube type outfit that had enough purchasing clout to have a lame oil produced at a discount to what they could buy the real deal ..and have the economy to distribute it.
Every oil, just about, is "cheap bulk oil" if you're a big enough customer. It's the "real deal" in every way, shape, and form as the stuff you buy in a quart container.
I guess I should have worded my question more on the lines of, "Does FORD dealerships standard oil changes include MC semi-synthetic 5w-20 oil"?
My local dealer advertises it that way. Motorcraft oil and Motorcraft oil filter. Others I have seen also do this.
Makes good sense to me
Makes good sense to me
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You would have to consult with your dealer to find out what oil he uses. I think they are only required to give you the proper weight of oil when under warranty... not necessarily the same-name factory-supplied oil brand.
Some dealerships use brands of oils/filters that you wouldn't even expect of them. Sometimes brands like Citgo, Shell Formula & Exxon Superflow.
Some dealerships use brands of oils/filters that you wouldn't even expect of them. Sometimes brands like Citgo, Shell Formula & Exxon Superflow.
I always found it legal but, unethical that a dealer is not required to use the manufactures labled oil or oil filters. Legaly a dealer may use ANY oil that meets the minimum manufacture specs. So if I take my GM into a GM dealer expecting a GM filter and a GM oil I may get most anything.
My Honda dealer doesn't even stock Honda oil, despite Honda's strong language recommending it. So you can't get an oil change with it even if ypu specifically ask. Normally I'd take such language with a grain of salt, but with a 10k recommended interval, I think it means a little more.
So no, you can't assume that the Ford dealer will use the MC oil. You'd have to ask, but I have a hard time believing that they would be dishonest about it.
So no, you can't assume that the Ford dealer will use the MC oil. You'd have to ask, but I have a hard time believing that they would be dishonest about it.
One of the only ways a dealer can differentiate themselves from the "Jiffy" type place is through using OEM oil and filters.
Many dealers have a dedicated "fast service" oil change section at their service departments. Prices are competitive with the other "fast service" shops (except Walmart LOL)
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[ December 03, 2005, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: tenderloin ]
Many dealers have a dedicated "fast service" oil change section at their service departments. Prices are competitive with the other "fast service" shops (except Walmart LOL)
Ford has Quick Lane
Why Quick Lane?
Quick Lane is designed to meet the needs of people with busy lifestyles who need quick service for their vehicles delivered by qualified professionals with high-quality results.
Quick Lane consistently meets all of these needs in a professional and cost-effective manner, so you can obtain safe and reliable performance from your vehicle for as long as you own it.
Quick
With Quick Lane you can count on quick service every time you visit. We offer extended business hours for all services, and we are open on Saturday to ensure your maximum convenience.
No appointment is necessary, and we can deliver expert, professional service while you wait.
Quick Lane employs factory-trained technicians to ensure complete proficiency with your vehicle and all of its operating systems. We utilize state-of-the-art technologies and equipment to make certain your vehicle is serviced correctly. And we use only genuine Ford parts for all Ford Motor Company vehicles and parts specified by the original equipment manufacturer on all non-Ford vehicles to provide the highest quality performance.
Quality
To help you better understand your vehicle’s service needs and plan accordingly, each time you visit Quick Lane we will provide you with a FREE comprehensive 15-point Vehicle Inspection Report that covers as many as 96 individual points on your vehicle. Furthermore, we pledge to always deliver friendly and courteous service to you.
and Fastlane (Canada)
Fast Lane is a completely new approach to auto service.
It all starts with our Ford trained specialists who receive the latest in comprehensive Ford training programs to ensure that they have the skills to repair your vehicle right – the first time, on time.
From there our specialists take you through what needs to be repaired on your car and explain to you exactly why. Our specialists also inform you on what's recommended for down the road. We realize that car repair terminology can sometimes sound like another language, so we always encourage you to ask any questions you may have.
Now you can have the quality of Ford trained specialists using Ford and Motorcraft parts combined with convenient, "no appointment" service at an affordable price. So, when you need a repair to your vehicle... think Fast Lane.
No appointment necessary
While-you-wait service
Prices include installation
Ford-trained specialists
Ford-approved parts
Convenient hours
National FastLane Customer Protection Plan
GM has Quick Lube Plus
Changing your engine oil regularly is one of the most important things you can do to extend the life of your GM vehicle -- especially when it's a GM Goodwrench Quick Lube Plus oil change. It's only available at a select group of dealers and offers guaranteed 29-minutes-or-less service, competitive prices, factory-trained technicians, and a ten-point maintenance check.
Quick Lube Service Includes:
Up to five quarts of oil the quality of genuine GM Goodwrench motor oil and ACDelco® filters
Chassis lubrication
Ten-point maintenance check and inspection of drive belts, hoses, air filter, and tire pressure
Fluids checked: brake fluid, differential fluid on rear-wheel drive vehicles. Transfer case fluid on four-wheel drive vehicles
Service Guarantee: GM Goodwrench Quick Lube Plus service in 29 minutes or less, or the next one's free
[ December 03, 2005, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: tenderloin ]
At my shop I found out that my supplier was carrying motorcraft oil on his truck. Asked him if I could get it in bulk. He said he carries it in bulk only for the Ford dealers in their territory and that I could not purchase it. I have to buy bottled mc 5-20 for my customers and me that want it.
yes they carry it in bulk.
at the dealership i used to work for they had motorcraft in 5w20 in bulk only.
they also carried Valvoline in 5w30 and 10w30.
anything over 5w20 in motorcraft they had in bottles.
at the dealership i used to work for they had motorcraft in 5w20 in bulk only.
they also carried Valvoline in 5w30 and 10w30.
anything over 5w20 in motorcraft they had in bottles.
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At my shop I found out that my supplier was carrying motorcraft oil on his truck. Asked him if I could get it in bulk. He said he carries it in bulk only for the Ford dealers in their territory and that I could not purchase it. I have to buy bottled mc 5-20 for my customers and me that want it.
Maybe that only means that you have to purchase it from a supplier that doesn't service Ford dealers in your distributors area.
Maybe that only means that you have to purchase it from a supplier that doesn't service Ford dealers in your distributors area.
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