quote:Darn that sucks, looks like I'll be changing oil soon I put the 0w30 in the TDI, but since it's only 3.4 I'll probably move up to the Series 3000 5w30. Good news though, I haven't had to add any oil in the 8,000 miles so far on the oil. I'd say it's probably down about 6 oz, I don't want to add any that will affect my oil sample at the 10K mark so I'll wait until after that to add. I'm trying for 20K on this oil in the TDI, after that I'll go to the Series 3000. Also probably all subsequent filter changes on the F150 I'll add the Series 3000. I'm thinking this might be the better of the oils, comparing the Series 2000 and Series 3000.
Originally posted by buster: Amsoil has updated their website for the S2k oil and the HT/HS is 3.4 Does this oil still qualify for the A3 rating?
quote:Buster I don't believe that your statement is entirley accurate. From what I understand the Series 2000/3000 uses higher percentage of ester along with the different additive package. Wheras the ATM/ASL/AME/ARO/AMO/AMV/AMF use the same PAO based package. As far as oil packages close to Delvac 1 Amsoils 10w40 AMO is closest in spec and performance.
Originally posted by buster: S3000 is a nice long drain oil, but for performance engines, I'm not so sure it's a good choice. It clearly has the strongetst additive package of any Amsoil oil, as it should being a deisel oil. For all we know, it could share the same base stock as Delvac 1. I do think Redline is way ahead of the pack in terms of what they are giving you, but again, there oils are more performance oriented. For $7qt, you get a Polyester basestock and a very heavy additive package where as Amsoil S2k your still using a PAO and a heavy dose of ZDDP for $8.35qt. However, it still is a good oil. S2k has a friction modifier package that ASL/ATM dont have according to Jim V. I wouldnt be surprised if Amsoil rolls out some new oils soon as the competition is on par and in some cases pulling ahead. I would also think a POE base stock is more capable of longer drain intervals then a PAO.
quote:[ October 31, 2003, 01:04 AM: Message edited by: Alex D ]
Originally posted by Pablo: It's just more evidence that: Amsoil corporate thinks in strange ways. ASL/ATM are just such a better deal, it's almost a joke.
quote:I won't take this as a personal insult. Because it so nicely makes my point. Just how much detail does Amsoil corporate tell customers or even dealers about changing over to S2K and going 35,000 miles? Don't use it in V8's? Make sure all the miles are highway? Make sure the engine is clean beyond clean before you start? Ease up to the 35k, by going 10K, 15k, etc intervals first? NO there is almost NO details forthcoming. The only 6 basics and even those aren't emphasized: a) Amsoil flush (hmmmm) b) 12 months max (that is a serious bacon saver) c) Filter swaps and top ups (this is the best) d) the chart (hardly mentioned, but good) e) Mechanically sound motor (butt coverage, but good) f) UOA's (IF you go beyond)
You can get excellent results with the Series 2000 - you just have to know what you are doing ....