Did an anniversary of Pearl Harbor really pass without a mention on this board?
I apologize for not remembering and posting it.
I apologize for not remembering and posting it.
Did it really come and go?
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There was a short thread.
I always think of it. I guess it's not taught in school, or if so, it was "our fault".
I always think of it. I guess it's not taught in school, or if so, it was "our fault".
Maybe people were fearing the inevitable slide into a 9/11 discussion.
I can tell you that West Central Park in NYC is memorialized every December 8th, without exception.
Pablo, thanks for the PM with the thread. It did come and go, the thread was started on the 8th.
Such is life.
Such is life.
We celebrate Dec. 7th. every year. That's my #2 sons birthday. My wife calls him her bomb.
Maybe because we are being slowly indoctrinated over the years as to how it was really OUR fault. We are the bad guys and deserved it.
I'm not kidding.
I'm not kidding.
Well, we deserved it, didn't we? I mean, really. Staying neutral is so "Swiss".
I remember reading somewhere that Churchill knew of the coming attack but didn't tell Roosevelt because he (Churchill) wanted us to get involed to help Brittain.
Did anyone read "Flyboys"? http://books.google.com/books?id=09sgEfK...y3XtBiL5roJtMZQ
To see how evil the Japanese were, read Ch. 5 about the Rape of China. Absolutely evil and gut wrenching. But you don't hear much about it, it's always about the Germans. These guys make the Germans look like wimps when it comes to crimes against humanity.
I remember reading somewhere that Churchill knew of the coming attack but didn't tell Roosevelt because he (Churchill) wanted us to get involed to help Brittain.
Did anyone read "Flyboys"? http://books.google.com/books?id=09sgEfK...y3XtBiL5roJtMZQ
To see how evil the Japanese were, read Ch. 5 about the Rape of China. Absolutely evil and gut wrenching. But you don't hear much about it, it's always about the Germans. These guys make the Germans look like wimps when it comes to crimes against humanity.
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Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Maybe because we are being slowly indoctrinated over the years as to how it was really OUR fault. We are the bad guys and deserved it.
I'm not kidding.
No. I don't think so. Pearl Harbor was a military attack. Plain and simple. No invasion ..no occupation. No civilian targets. It was merely to cripple our ability to back up our and Britain's economic/material embargo of Japan for their invasion and occupation of China. We controlled all the resources. They had none ..and we had the moxie to enforce their withholding. Once our fleet was destroyed, there was no stopping them.
I do think that a few lessons from WWI were learned and used with victory in WWII. Both aggressor nations were pacified instead of punished after the fighting stopped ..at least on the allies side of things. Can't say the same for those who fell under the Russian post war rule.
Maybe because we are being slowly indoctrinated over the years as to how it was really OUR fault. We are the bad guys and deserved it.
I'm not kidding.
No. I don't think so. Pearl Harbor was a military attack. Plain and simple. No invasion ..no occupation. No civilian targets. It was merely to cripple our ability to back up our and Britain's economic/material embargo of Japan for their invasion and occupation of China. We controlled all the resources. They had none ..and we had the moxie to enforce their withholding. Once our fleet was destroyed, there was no stopping them.
I do think that a few lessons from WWI were learned and used with victory in WWII. Both aggressor nations were pacified instead of punished after the fighting stopped ..at least on the allies side of things. Can't say the same for those who fell under the Russian post war rule.
Originally Posted By: Shannow
well I've got olive complexion, long hair, a goatee...and my birthday is in two weeks...I don't think you are disasters any more than I am ole whatsisface.
How tall are you? How many AK47s do you own?
well I've got olive complexion, long hair, a goatee...and my birthday is in two weeks...I don't think you are disasters any more than I am ole whatsisface.
How tall are you? How many AK47s do you own?
Originally Posted By: Oldmoparguy1
Originally Posted By: Shannow
well I've got olive complexion, long hair, a goatee...and my birthday is in two weeks...I don't think you are disasters any more than I am ole whatsisface.
How tall are you? How many AK47s do you own?
Why would Santa Claus own AK47's?
Originally Posted By: Shannow
well I've got olive complexion, long hair, a goatee...and my birthday is in two weeks...I don't think you are disasters any more than I am ole whatsisface.
How tall are you? How many AK47s do you own?
Why would Santa Claus own AK47's?
Santa Bin Laden?
I don't get it. Who do you look like Shannow?
If I remember, St. Nick was light complected....lives in cold climate, stays inside a lot except for one ride at night once a year...
I don't get it. Who do you look like Shannow?
If I remember, St. Nick was light complected....lives in cold climate, stays inside a lot except for one ride at night once a year...
Originally Posted By: kargo27
Santa Bin Laden?
I don't get it. Who do you look like Shannow?
If I remember, St. Nick was light complected....lives in cold climate, stays inside a lot except for one ride at night once a year...
Opppss.. My bad. The olive complection threw me off. Apologies Shannow.
OTOH: I seem to be missing the Christmas spirit this year. Don't know why.
Santa Bin Laden?
I don't get it. Who do you look like Shannow?
If I remember, St. Nick was light complected....lives in cold climate, stays inside a lot except for one ride at night once a year...
Opppss.. My bad. The olive complection threw me off. Apologies Shannow.
OTOH: I seem to be missing the Christmas spirit this year. Don't know why.
Moparguy,
I feel your pain. I'm missing the Christmas spirit, too.
Could it be because the stores started the spirit FOR US before Halloween?
I like my holidays in order....Halloween, Thanksgiving, THEN Christmas, not Christmas watered down since before Halloween and run amuck through the two.
Is it just me?
I feel your pain. I'm missing the Christmas spirit, too.
Could it be because the stores started the spirit FOR US before Halloween?
I like my holidays in order....Halloween, Thanksgiving, THEN Christmas, not Christmas watered down since before Halloween and run amuck through the two.
Is it just me?
Talking to the newer generation of college students scares me.
I don't recognize the agendas and patterns.
I don't recognize the agendas and patterns.
Think Mr. Magoo humor. I'm pretty sure he meant JC, not OBL, but we can't say JC, so I inserted Santa in a blind man kinda way.....
I have no idea what Mr. Shannow looks like but I know he is a he. Not a she, which some of guys here thought!
I have no idea what Mr. Shannow looks like but I know he is a he. Not a she, which some of guys here thought!
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Shannow could easily don a robe ..or Punjabi pajama and assume a role as a monk or an AK toting radical. He's very versatile.
Of course, we know him as the mild mannered shepherding engineer at a regional power producer.
Of course, we know him as the mild mannered shepherding engineer at a regional power producer.
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