Department store industry collapses

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Kohl’s is closing 18 stores after Macy closed some stores last week/month, others such as Sears, JCPenney and Walmart are closing some stores too.

Online retailers such as Amazon and others are expanding at rapid pace.
 
The closing of a few underperforming outlets hardly constitutes a collapse.
Some retailers, like the Sears/Kmart combine have suffered through years of declining revenue and have had to shutter many locations.
Others, like Kohl's, have grown rapidly and have done very well.
Online sellers make sense for known commodities, like a TV, a camera or car parts. Even there, the online sellers are free-riding on the backs of B&M stores, which actually have that TV or camera for you to try out.
They make less sense for shoes and clothing, where only by trying something on can you know whether it suits you (bit of a pun).
I'm also not sure that online sellers operate at lower costs, since their fulfillment centers cost as much to operate as any B&M store and some, like Amazon, seem to bleed money.
The end of the B&M store is not upon us and likely never will be.
Online is great for travel bookings and parts for all of those things you have that need them and less so for everything else.
Commodities are natural online goods. Things that have to actually fit properly aren't.
You also never need to worry about the stuff you buy in a B&M store getting ruined in shipping or stolen from your front stoop.
 
Originally Posted By: Traction
They should have passed a online sales tax years ago!!!!!!!!!!


Why? They should do away with sales tax cash cow all together and control their friggin spending.
 
Originally Posted By: CT8
Retail is changing!!!


Not for me! If I can't look at it, and touch it, I ain't buyin it.
 
Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
Kohl's has 1100 stores. Closing 18 of them isn't really a "collapse".

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good eye-catching headline!
 
Originally Posted By: Traction
They should have passed a online sales tax years ago!!!!!!!!!!
Who is "they" and why should I pay an "online sales tax"? DO you think we can TAX our way to prosperity?
 
These companies are closing stores where:

1. they have to pay high wages $15/hr
2. the shopping centers are failing
3. high crime rate neighborhoods
4. low sales/ profits.

It is actually a smart move designed to be more profitable.
 
Before my time there was the general store.

Then Woolworth's 5&10 came to town and drove the general store out of business. I just remember when Woolworth's was the place to shop, you could get everything there (even a pregnant hamster, but that's another story) I was very young.

Then the malls and large department stores came to town and drove Woolworth's and the 5&10s out of business. When the mall came to town it was the place to go, classy shopping, some interesting places to eat and a little bit of anything to look at. Woolworth's became a thrift shop, choked with cast-off goods.

Then the Internet came to town. Now the malls seem to specialize in dollar stores and vacancies. The big department stores, once bustling hives of activity, now deserted, worn, tired.

Life goes on.
 
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR

Online retailers such as Amazon and others are expanding at rapid pace.

Really? I HATE Amazon. Rarely the lowest prices, the Prime scam, and then I get to wait for it. Or I can pay about the same, stop at the store on the way home and have it today vs a week.

About the only thing I mail order is shoes because the local selection blows and with Zappos (yes it's Amazon), I can have it tomorrow for free.
 
Originally Posted By: Traction
They should have passed a online sales tax years ago!!!!!!!!!!


In many states, online retailers are required to charge sales tax if they have a physical presence in the state the order is shipped to.

Also in many states, you're still required to pay sales tax on online purchases even if the retailer didn't charge the tax. You're supposed to report these purchases and pay the sales tax directly to the state.
 
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR

Online retailers such as Amazon and others are expanding at rapid pace.

Really? I HATE Amazon. Rarely the lowest prices, the Prime scam, and then I get to wait for it. Or I can pay about the same, stop at the store on the way home and have it today vs a week.

About the only thing I mail order is shoes because the local selection blows and with Zappos (yes it's Amazon), I can have it tomorrow for free.

Yes Prime is a scam. We were prime members, and used Amazon for a some of our Christmas shopping. There was a large number of items "not eligible for prime" on Amazon's website. Their Prime TV/Movie streaming service is also a scam. There are shows where the first couple of seasons are included with Prime, and just when you get hooked, suddenly you have to pay $1.99 per episode for the next season.
 
Originally Posted By: Traction
They should have passed a online sales tax years ago!!!!!!!!!!


While I don't like the idea of another tax I tend to agree with you.
Brick and Mortar stores are an important part of the local community and help create local jobs. While the thought of being able to click a few buttons and order a product and having it brought to me is very enticing, the thought of not being able to actually look, and see the item, and try it in person has always concerned and bothered me, not to mention that it sure is cheaper to drive down to the B&M and return something without paying a significant shipping fee, and it might need to be insured as well.
 
I am sure large successful retail companies are always evaluating under performing stores for closure. At the same time they open new stores.

Caldors, Jamesway, Ames and Bradlees all closed years ago before Amazon. G Fox became Filenes which became Macy's. Bambergers and EJ Korvetes also closed before Amazon.
 
Now that Amazon has gained Marketshare with its low prices...free shipping...no profit making business. Expect prices to go up.
 
It is a giant chasm between driving into Hartford CT and navigating the 9 floors of G Fox (elevator man included) wading thru multiple departments, even eating right in the 'in store' restaurant, and sitting in front of a computer, clicking on a cart and having junk show up @ your house a few days later; I prefer the former.
 
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