Delta crash at Toronto

[edyvw]

This just happened. Apparently everyone is accounted for. Crazy couple of months:

 

[OVERKILL]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/loca...lane-crash-at-toronto-pearson-paramedics-say/

A few people hurt (8 reported), but nobody killed. I'm not sure how a plane ends up on its back, cross-wind? @Astro14 ?

Flight was apparently arriving from Minneapolis.

 

[Hermann]

look at the windsock, it's straight out.

 

[SevenBizzos]

Runway 23. The ground traffic looks like it's just beyond the landing area.

 

[KGMtech]

Scary, but winter has been bad this year.

 

[Dave Hess]

Luckily no fatalities.

 

[GSCJR]

Wow! Dropped my wife and daughter off at Pearson yesterday. Their flight was delayed from 14:55 to 15:57 due to the winter storm and air traffic according to the airline.

 

[OVERKILL]

Another pic:

 

[tbm5690]

Wing separation, could have been a gear issue. We will see.

 

[dishdude]

Upside down, in one piece and no fire - pretty impressive. What is that, a CRJ?

 

[I<3oil]

Upside down, in one piece and no fire - pretty impressive. What is that, a CRJ?

Yes

 

[fdcg27]

The aircraft looks bad resting on its back and apparently having lost its wings and empennage.
Thankfully there are no fatalities although three are apparently hospitalized in bad condition.
I guess everyone paid attention to the seat belt call on approach.

 

[skyactiv]

Is that an Embraer?
EDIT. It's not an Embraer.

 

[edyvw]

Is that an Embraer?

CRJ900.

 

[Astro14]

Threads merged.

There is a crosswind limit on the CRJ that is significantly lower than it is for larger airplanes. That high wind today likely has something to do with it.

But the only way I could see an airplane flipping over is if they really bounced the landing, and lost control, or they left the paved surface, and hit an embankment.

 

[Astro14]

Crosswind limits for the CRJ:

• Dry runway: 35 knots for takeoff and 32 knots for landing
• Wet runway: 22 knots for takeoff and landing
• Fair braking action: 20 knots for takeoff and landing
• Poor braking action: 15 knots for takeoff and landing

Weather as of an hour ago: winds 270 at 26, gusting to 34 with drifting snow.

Drifting snow would create the fair to poor braking action that could cause controllability problems.

VYYR typically lands on 23 or the 24s, and this flight appears to have landed on 23.

With that wind, and landing on runway 23, the relative/direct crosswind component would have been 13 knots, gusting to 17 knots.

Which might have put the airplane over the crosswind limit if the drifting snow caused poor braking action.

 

[GSCJR]

Reported wind speed was 25-37 knots, with some crosswinds during the attempted landing.

 

[Just a civilian pilot]

Current winds at YYZ are 285/23 gusting 33.

18 knot crosswind with the standard landings west direction.

 

[skyactiv]

CRJ900.

Thank you

 

[Just a civilian pilot]

Crosswind limits for the CRJ:

• Dry runway: 35 knots for takeoff and 32 knots for landing
• Wet runway: 22 knots for takeoff and landing
• Fair braking action: 20 knots for takeoff and landing
• Poor braking action: 15 knots for takeoff and landing

Weather as of an hour ago: winds 270 at 26, gusting to 34 with drifting snow.

Drifting snow would create the fair to poor braking action that could cause controllability problems.

VYYR typically lands on 23 or the 24s, and this flight appears to have landed on 23.

With that wind, and landing on runway 23, the relative/direct crosswind component would have been 13 knots, gusting to 17 knots.

Which might have put the airplane over the crosswind limit if the drifting snow caused poor braking action.

Didn’t see this until I already hit send.

At the airport in YYZ for sim today.