Counterfeit Tool Batteries

i ONLY buy milwaukee batteries through homedepot sales, acme, toolnut etc. the batteries are expensive enough that i don’t want to buy twice if i get a fake one. my oldest batteries are going on 6 years old and still can make it through any project i need.
 
If you want to use a “brand name” knock off of Dewalt, try Waitley. I’ve had good luck with them so far. This screen shot is in CDN dollars. Multiply by 0.7 for USD.

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The funny thing in all of this? I bought 2 on eBay in 2018 and they still work fine. And they are constantly used. There are times that I think the fact that we are so well off, we want things to worry about.

I bought a Toyota NAV dvd in 2016 and it never occurred to me that it was counterfeit at $19. Now I realize it is. Should I turn myself in? 😂

The other interesting thing? Allstate is more than willing to warrant the eBay purchase.

What are we talking about. Well, I’ve gotten Amazon (amazon not 3rd party) 5Ah XR @ 2 for $104.

eBay is about $80. Worth it? Maybe not.

But Amazon usually isn’t $104.
 
If you want to use a “brand name” knock off of Dewalt, try Waitley. I’ve had good luck with them so far. This screen shot is in CDN dollars. Multiply by 0.7 for USD.

Didn't Project Farm test Waitley batteries, with decent results? Too bad they don't offer more sizes. Have you ever weighed them and compared to the OEM battery?
 
The funny thing in all of this? I bought 2 on eBay in 2018 and they still work fine. And they are constantly used. There are times that I think the fact that we are so well off, we want things to worry about.

I bought a Toyota NAV dvd in 2016 and it never occurred to me that it was counterfeit at $19. Now I realize it is. Should I turn myself in? 😂

The other interesting thing? Allstate is more than willing to warrant the eBay purchase.

What are we talking about. Well, I’ve gotten Amazon (amazon not 3rd party) 5Ah XR @ 2 for $104.

eBay is about $80. Worth it? Maybe not.

But Amazon usually isn’t $104.
On high draw tools that truly need the amp output of say, a 12.0, it matters. Blowers, chainsaws, chop saw, miter saw, 7" grinder etc

My non-profit runs the Milwaukee water pumps to death and goes through several 12.0s in a day.

If you're just drilling a few holes or running a jobsite stereo or impact driver, it's much less of an issue.
 
My neighbor, a retired teacher with several degrees including a masters in organic chemistry, buy stuff from a bay all the time, then bitches about it being junk, all the time. Love the guy, but smart aint always smart.

If it is too good to be true, it is always one of three

stolen
fake
ex husbands stuff
 
On high draw tools that truly need the amp output of say, a 12.0, it matters. Blowers, chainsaws, chop saw, miter saw, 7" grinder etc

My non-profit runs the Milwaukee water pumps to death and goes through several 12.0s in a day.

If you're just drilling a few holes or running a jobsite stereo or impact driver, it's much less of an issue.
Hey! Just because I use them to run a portable fan or a flashlight, to stay comfortable while watching the Phillies, doesn’t mean I’m not a real man (grunting like Tim the Tool Man Taylor)!

Seriously the car polisher does a number on the 5Ah’s…..
 
My neighbor, a retired teacher with several degrees including a masters in organic chemistry, buy stuff from a bay all the time, then bitches about it being junk, all the time. Love the guy, but smart aint always smart.

If it is too good to be true, it is always one of three

stolen
fake
ex husbands stuff
Imho eBay is efficient. For me to get new with tags Nike Golf shirts for $3.99 plus shipping (got 4 for $24 shipped) isn’t too good to be true. It’s a way for the holder of the goods to unload them (has logos from a co that’s oob).

I just got 4 Buick Enclave OE rims shipped for $56-$68 each. They are $580 list, $202 at wheels america refurbed. Thing is the plastic center cap is $84 alone, and they came with them on the $56-$68.

I wouldn’t assume eBay is stolen counterfeit or ex husband. I got almost all my snap on tools from eBay.
 
Imho eBay is efficient. For me to get new with tags Nike Golf shirts for $3.99 plus shipping (got 4 for $24 shipped) isn’t too good to be true. It’s a way for the holder of the goods to unload them (has logos from a co that’s oob).

I just got 4 Buick Enclave OE rims shipped for $56-$68 each. They are $580 list, $202 at wheels america refurbed. Thing is the plastic center cap is $84 alone, and they came with them on the $56-$68.

I wouldn’t assume eBay is stolen counterfeit or ex husband. I got almost all my snap on tools from eBay.
well, we are talking about power tool batteries that come from China, there is a difference.

Yes, not all stuff from ebay is fake, but alot of it is *fake*.
 
well, we are talking about power tool batteries that come from China, there is a difference.

Yes, not all stuff from ebay is fake, but alot of it is *fake*.
I actually looked closely at my eBay dewalt batteries and see no difference.

BUT. I didn’t have the guts to call dewalt with the numbers as I didn’t want to be disappointed that the numbers are fake. The ones I got simply do work and have for 5 years…daily use but not as if I’m on a job site…
 
I actually looked closely at my eBay dewalt batteries and see no difference.

BUT. I didn’t have the guts to call dewalt with the numbers as I didn’t want to be disappointed that the numbers are fake. The ones I got simply do work and have for 5 years…daily use but not as if I’m on a job site…
I am not arguing that the battery would not work, but it is unlikely that they are made to the same standard. Twice as good? No.

There is a guy on youtube that does some pretty good and funny tool reviews, where he takes them apart and evaluates the quality and design. On one video, he showed the difference between a Japanese made and sold in Japan Makita impact driver, and the Makita USA made in China. Big difference in quality.

But, if it works it works.

 
Look at the yellow bar on the front of the package that contains the word "Dewalt". On the real package, it goes all the way to the right. On the counterfeit, it stops short of going to the edge.

Compare the "XR" and the label (in general) on each battery.

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I'm wondering if the counterfeits used old cases/labels? He was able to register the counterfeit Dewalt batteries and their website even has a photo of the batteries that match the counterfeit ones (ie shorter XR label):

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Counterfeiters are getting so good that you can only rely on purchasing from authorized retailers
 
Looked it up and I last paid $108 on Amazon in Oct 2023.

It’s $129 now.

At these prices I can see the case to stick with authorized

Lowes is $149 right now so Amazon is the sweet spot

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On Li-Ion batteries, I would be very concerned about the fake/counterfeit batteries going up in flames while charging and burning my house down. It really isn't worth the cost savings IMO.
 
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If you plan to run fakes in the cold....well, good luck. I need my tools to function in at least the 30's to low 40's
 
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