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Honda type II is a POAT as well as some of the extended life coolants, works great in all aluminum applications. Toyota Pink adds potasium flouride for magnesium protection
Peak LONGLIFE contains 2-EHA, LIFETIME does not.
Prestone original american formula was yellow at one time. Now all they sell is the dexclone extended life all makes and models athat is I think sort of yellow. Peal LL is believed to be the same thing as Peak EL and both are thought to be 2-EHA Dexclones.
Here is the MSDS for Peak Long Life from their website:
http://www.peakantifreeze.com/msds/msds_pk_longlife.pdf
It does not list 2-EHA as an ingredient.
These are the ingredients listed:
Material CAS# % by Wt PEL (OSHA) TLV (ACGIH)
Ethylene Glycol 107-21-1 90 - 97 50 ppm 50 ppm
Diethylene Glycol 111-46-6 < 5 None None
Hydrated inorganic acid, proprietary < 5 10 mg/m3 1 mg/m3
organic acid salts
Water 7732-18-5 < 4 None None
2-EHA is an organic acid (per wikipedia), the msds list an inorganic acid.
Please let me know if I'm wrong here.
Thanks,
Justin
http://www.peakantifreeze.com/msds/msds_pk_longlife.pdf
It does not list 2-EHA as an ingredient.
These are the ingredients listed:
Material CAS# % by Wt PEL (OSHA) TLV (ACGIH)
Ethylene Glycol 107-21-1 90 - 97 50 ppm 50 ppm
Diethylene Glycol 111-46-6 < 5 None None
Hydrated inorganic acid, proprietary < 5 10 mg/m3 1 mg/m3
organic acid salts
Water 7732-18-5 < 4 None None
2-EHA is an organic acid (per wikipedia), the msds list an inorganic acid.
Please let me know if I'm wrong here.
Thanks,
Justin
Not to be diagreeable, but rather as a point of information. Some time ago, IIRC tenderlion (a Bitog member) emailed Peak Old World to ask about Peak LL and Peak GL. The reply stated that Peak LL contained 2eha, and as advertised on it's website Peak GL did not.
Also, if you read the msds it says, proprietary Hydrated inorganic acid, organic acid salts: < 5% I suspect it could be in that propiety ingredientes which includes both inorganic acid and organic acid salts. And, all contents may not be listed on msds sheets. It is my impression that they are designed first as safety information, rather than a comprehensive list of content.
That said, I've used universal coolants, first Prestone, now Peak LL for ~ 5yrs in two different Asian makes, with regular 2-3yrs maintenance flush, with no issues. For me, with or without 2eha is no biggie either way.
Also, if you read the msds it says, proprietary Hydrated inorganic acid, organic acid salts: < 5% I suspect it could be in that propiety ingredientes which includes both inorganic acid and organic acid salts. And, all contents may not be listed on msds sheets. It is my impression that they are designed first as safety information, rather than a comprehensive list of content.
That said, I've used universal coolants, first Prestone, now Peak LL for ~ 5yrs in two different Asian makes, with regular 2-3yrs maintenance flush, with no issues. For me, with or without 2eha is no biggie either way.
what does nissan use?
factory stuff in 99 was green
factory stuff in 99 was green
Justin here's the post https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/peak-extended-life-peak-global.101304/
Originally Posted By: edwardh1
what does nissan use?
factory stuff in 99 was green
It was green in my 03. But as to what it is, there is very little information out there on the web or even the dealer as to what it specifically is. In the owners manual the most you will find is the word "green" to describe thier coolant. It also says or equivalent. I do know it's pricey.
As said above I've done 2 complete flush and used Prestone and now Peak LL with no issues. Being as the recommended Nissan maintenance interval is 2yrs/30k, IMO any coolant like the universals/all makes should be fine.
what does nissan use?
factory stuff in 99 was green
It was green in my 03. But as to what it is, there is very little information out there on the web or even the dealer as to what it specifically is. In the owners manual the most you will find is the word "green" to describe thier coolant. It also says or equivalent. I do know it's pricey.
As said above I've done 2 complete flush and used Prestone and now Peak LL with no issues. Being as the recommended Nissan maintenance interval is 2yrs/30k, IMO any coolant like the universals/all makes should be fine.
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Not to be diagreeable, but rather as a point of information. Some time ago, IIRC tenderlion (a Bitog member) emailed Peak Old World to ask about Peak LL and Peak GL. The reply stated that Peak LL contained 2eha, and as advertised on it's website Peak GL did not.
Also, if you read the msds it says, proprietary Hydrated inorganic acid, organic acid salts: < 5% I suspect it could be in that propiety ingredientes which includes both inorganic acid and organic acid salts. And, all contents may not be listed on msds sheets. It is my impression that they are designed first as safety information, rather than a comprehensive list of content.
I don't think you are being disagreeable here, and I agree with you here. See we don't disagree on everything or that much. I'm convinced Peak Long Life and Peak Extended Life are the same product and both are 2-EHA formulas. If you look on the back of the bottle of EL and LL they both have the same proprietary inhibitor, NJTR.. or something to that effect. So they are the same, and a MSDS doesn't tell you specifically what the inhibitor is.
This isn't really important to whether they are the same but as far as I know, it's only called Extended Life at Walmart stores and most other places it is labeled Long Life. It's not unusual for a manufacture to make some little packaging change for a major retailer to to easily distinquish their stock from other retailers.
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That said, I've used universal coolants, first Prestone, now Peak LL for ~ 5yrs in two different Asian makes, with regular 2-3yrs maintenance flush, with no issues. For me, with or without 2eha is no biggie either way.
Well you are bolder than most people are, but this just provides more support and proof to the contention that assuming no air gets in the cooling system and you have compatible gaskets, dexcool/dexclones do not cause issues. Apparently your pressure cap and reservoir system have been working good. I'm not sure I'd run a Dexclone but I think Prestone might be the better choice between it and Peak. I was at Walmart earlier and they were practically giving away Prestone AM at $8.50 for concentrate plus a B1G1 mail in rebate. that works out to the equivalent of just over $2 for a gallon of premix.
Not to be diagreeable, but rather as a point of information. Some time ago, IIRC tenderlion (a Bitog member) emailed Peak Old World to ask about Peak LL and Peak GL. The reply stated that Peak LL contained 2eha, and as advertised on it's website Peak GL did not.
Also, if you read the msds it says, proprietary Hydrated inorganic acid, organic acid salts: < 5% I suspect it could be in that propiety ingredientes which includes both inorganic acid and organic acid salts. And, all contents may not be listed on msds sheets. It is my impression that they are designed first as safety information, rather than a comprehensive list of content.
I don't think you are being disagreeable here, and I agree with you here. See we don't disagree on everything or that much. I'm convinced Peak Long Life and Peak Extended Life are the same product and both are 2-EHA formulas. If you look on the back of the bottle of EL and LL they both have the same proprietary inhibitor, NJTR.. or something to that effect. So they are the same, and a MSDS doesn't tell you specifically what the inhibitor is.
This isn't really important to whether they are the same but as far as I know, it's only called Extended Life at Walmart stores and most other places it is labeled Long Life. It's not unusual for a manufacture to make some little packaging change for a major retailer to to easily distinquish their stock from other retailers.
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That said, I've used universal coolants, first Prestone, now Peak LL for ~ 5yrs in two different Asian makes, with regular 2-3yrs maintenance flush, with no issues. For me, with or without 2eha is no biggie either way.
Well you are bolder than most people are, but this just provides more support and proof to the contention that assuming no air gets in the cooling system and you have compatible gaskets, dexcool/dexclones do not cause issues. Apparently your pressure cap and reservoir system have been working good. I'm not sure I'd run a Dexclone but I think Prestone might be the better choice between it and Peak. I was at Walmart earlier and they were practically giving away Prestone AM at $8.50 for concentrate plus a B1G1 mail in rebate. that works out to the equivalent of just over $2 for a gallon of premix.
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Originally Posted By: edwardh1
what does nissan use?
factory stuff in 99 was green
It was green in my 03. But as to what it is, there is very little information out there on the web or even the dealer as to what it specifically is. In the owners manual the most you will find is the word "green" to describe thier coolant. It also says or equivalent. I do know it's pricey.
As said above I've done 2 complete flush and used Prestone and now Peak LL with no issues. Being as the recommended Nissan maintenance interval is 2yrs/30k, IMO any coolant like the universals/all makes should be fine.
With that low of a service life recommendation I'd assume the Nissan coolant is just a green dyed non-OAT formula with phosphates and no silicates similar to Toyota long life maybe.
Originally Posted By: edwardh1
what does nissan use?
factory stuff in 99 was green
It was green in my 03. But as to what it is, there is very little information out there on the web or even the dealer as to what it specifically is. In the owners manual the most you will find is the word "green" to describe thier coolant. It also says or equivalent. I do know it's pricey.
As said above I've done 2 complete flush and used Prestone and now Peak LL with no issues. Being as the recommended Nissan maintenance interval is 2yrs/30k, IMO any coolant like the universals/all makes should be fine.
With that low of a service life recommendation I'd assume the Nissan coolant is just a green dyed non-OAT formula with phosphates and no silicates similar to Toyota long life maybe.
So if companies are putting 2-EHA in coolant and not listing it in the ingredients section, how can we find coolant that is not a dex clone, other than buying G-05, or dealer coolant.
It just doesn't feel right. Every other one I've seen says 2-EHA in the ingredients list if it contains it. Not trying to start anything, just blown away that some list it and others don't. Seems kinda slimy to me that Peak would do that. Makes me want to buy another brand.
Are any of the diesel coolants simillar to G-05 ?
It just doesn't feel right. Every other one I've seen says 2-EHA in the ingredients list if it contains it. Not trying to start anything, just blown away that some list it and others don't. Seems kinda slimy to me that Peak would do that. Makes me want to buy another brand.
Are any of the diesel coolants simillar to G-05 ?
Well that's just it if you don't want Dexcool and it's clones, about all there is left besides the OEMs is G-05 and Peak Global. . Well there's also Zerex Asian formula and of course traditional Green. Prestone is really the only other one besides Peak marketing an all makes and Pestone does freely list it as having 2-EHA even on the housebrands. These are some of the reasons I prefer Zerex, although Zereks doesn't have an OAT coolant in concentrate to replace Dexcool with besides G-05 as far as I know.
Then there is the heavy duty diesel coolants, but to me that would be just as hard to get and expensive as OEMs. I think a lot of the heavy Duty diesel anti-freeze is G-05 or very similar. Some are a Dexclone and maybe some are Peak Global. I'm not sure which brand or type is which, but if you look at the coolant chart you could probably figure out a few brands that are not Dexclone.
Then there is the heavy duty diesel coolants, but to me that would be just as hard to get and expensive as OEMs. I think a lot of the heavy Duty diesel anti-freeze is G-05 or very similar. Some are a Dexclone and maybe some are Peak Global. I'm not sure which brand or type is which, but if you look at the coolant chart you could probably figure out a few brands that are not Dexclone.
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