I live in Maine which is called (locally?) "the tailpipe of the nation." My county requires emissions testing but it makes me wonder how much of that pollution is "our air" and how much blows in from the west. Since pollution doesn't know state lines, it makes sense that it's federally regulated (at a minimum), just like water rights, trade rights, etc. If a state upstream of me wants to do even better, good for them!
Congress removes CARB and other state's ability to set emissions standards
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https://www.latimes.com/environment...n-bid-to-overturn-california-gas-only-car-ban
My uncle visited from Wisconsin for the first time since 1988. He could believe how clear the air was in comparison.
Oh and by the way, my cost to charge an electric car is 30 cents a kWh at home at 3 am, 50-70 at a supercharger. Its not about "smog" or the environment; its a racket.
How is this CARB mandate NOT the "regulating of interstate commerce"? Effectively CA is blocking a Detroit company (say Ford, GM) from selling their cars across state lines? When CA announced this, I immediately thought this wouldn't be constitutional and "interstate commerce" clause. Lets not forget when this clean air business started. This isn't 1969, even my camaro is "CA Compliant." Under the auspicies of clean air and CARB, we've seen CA tank the oil industry in this state to the point where our gas prices are nearly double everywhere else in the country. Enough is enough.
My uncle visited from Wisconsin for the first time since 1988. He could believe how clear the air was in comparison.
Oh and by the way, my cost to charge an electric car is 30 cents a kWh at home at 3 am, 50-70 at a supercharger. Its not about "smog" or the environment; its a racket.
Clean air isn't the sole reason gas is expensive. What tanks moist companies in the cost of doing business on many levels in California. But if you live there and have a good job-your pay is commensurate with the cost of living. I lived in So Cal all my life until 13 years ago until I retired.
It was a WONDERFUL place to grow up. I wouldn't have changed it for anything.
Sure, they get to decide what to build.
The country they are selling into gets to decide what their standards are.
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Isn't West of Maine basically all Canada?
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California's gas price is $1.65/gallon more than the national average. Not only high taxes and infrastructure costs, but high Cap & Trade costs levied against the oil refiners, who simply turn around and pass that along to the customers. That $.65/gallon increase that's coming soon isn't a tax, it's a cap and trade penalty.
Also coming in the coming years is the outlaw of gasoline powered vehicles. EV's and plug in hybrids will be allowed, but not pure gas. Screw that!
And CA trying to solve global warming all by themselves by forcing CO2 emissions is pure folly.
Also coming in the coming years is the outlaw of gasoline powered vehicles. EV's and plug in hybrids will be allowed, but not pure gas. Screw that!
And CA trying to solve global warming all by themselves by forcing CO2 emissions is pure folly.
The only thing keeping California afloat is tax revenue from silicon valley. The movie industry is moving out.
Not anymore I got a good job, and a lot has changed in the past 13 years here. With two six figure salaries you still struggle unless you want to live in the midst of gun violence. I'm talking specifically about LA and related suburbs. Cost of living has skyrocketed, especially after COVID. With the gas it's the tax racket, Arizona gets the same gas AFAIK and it's at least a dollar cheaper. We saw this on vacation to Colorado River when you cross the border. CARB plays it's role in choking supply and all the refinery's are shutting down.
My wife is going to stop working because it makes no sense to pay 75% of your salary to child care, and this is paying someone 21$ an hour cash. No doubt actual other child care would be more.This is no place to raise a family, but we both have boomer parents that we don't want to leave. This isn't the state you grew up in anymore.
If something has worked well then what impetus is there to change it?
The LA basin had horrible air quality in the sixties.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Also, if people didn't want to live in Cali and are leaving, then housing prices would be declining like they are in Florida.
Doesn't seem to be happening,
The LA basin had horrible air quality in the sixties.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Also, if people didn't want to live in Cali and are leaving, then housing prices would be declining like they are in Florida.
Doesn't seem to be happening,
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Common sense for the next few years
That's what Congress just changed. California (and several other states) are no longer allowed to ban gas vehicles or have different emissions standards than the rest of the country.
The largest market in US will drive car makers emissions. Feel good legislation.
Does that include CO2? If so, that will kill CA and their cap and trade laws.
I'm quite aware of that.
California real estate prices hit a record high as reported three days ago.
https://fox5sandiego.com/business/p...e-price-hits-new-all-time-high-c-a-r-reports/
Because an outright ban on hybrids/gas is different from trying to limit emissions which was done in the past. There are significant infrastructure impacts on this change. We're come a long from from catless carbreuated engines. I don't know one person that thinks CA has the infrastructure support for all electric fleet. One of the recent fires is being blamed on electrical infrastructure, yet we have the highest energy and transmission costs in the nation.
The housing prices are a supply issue, not demand. That's why they can charge what they charge for these run down units. And frankly they are declining, slowly. I'll be buying in the next 6-12 months purely out of need and I'm tracking. San Diego is more expensive than LA at this point.
You may not know that federal emission standards were significantly tightened in 2024. To include aspects of tailpipe emissions that were less regulated before. Some of this is expected to 'rollback' (CO2 per mile for example) and some probably will not rollback, PM, NOx NMOG, CO for example. But the bottom line is that federal standards have become seriously strict.
In response to such a move, I'd expect CA to simply tax gasoline and diesel into impracticality. A de facto push into EV's.
Good thing the private jets everyone flies to climate‑change summits in don’t pollute at all.
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