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Not sure we all do whatsoever.

When the word free is replacing taxpayers involuntary paying, the meaning may shift considerably.
You're right; it is not free. It is far better as it is an investment in our future.
I live in a great area patrolled by Police Officers and filled with professionals to support my needs.

If people cannot find gainful employment, things go south. Some turn to crime. Jails and prisons are expensive; crime is a huge burden on society, right?
Happy people are good people.
Education is such an incredible investment. Look at me; with my De Anza and San Jose State skills I pay more income tax than, well that's another story. Compare that to what I used to be; one of those burdens on society.

Education lifts and enriches societies. Just my 2 cents... :)
 
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Major difference: private companies need to set salaries such that the company remains profitable. Government entities have the "limitless" taxbase to suck money out of.
That's a nice theory that does not play out in the real world. Many failing companies hand out golden parachutes to outgoing executives. Corporate boards where everyone sits on each other's boards. Private equity firms that buy up companies, extract all the value they can, then shut it down. The ratios of executive compensation to average worker salary are not supported by any sort of economic logic other than those with power using it to their own betterment.

All that said yes of course this plays out at the government level too. Corruption at all levels is unfortunately not being addressed very well in the current moment.

jeff
 
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That's a nice theory that does not play out in the real world. Many failing companies hand out golden parachutes to outgoing executives. Corporate boards where everyone sits on each other's boards. Private equity firms that buy up companies, extract all the value they can, then shut it down. The ratios of executive compensation to average worker salary are not supported by any sort of economic logic other than those with power using it to their own betterment.

All that said yes of course this plays out at the government level too. Corruption at all levels is unfortunately not being addressed very well in the current moment.

jeff
Yes true but we see every day it’s not sustainable in private companies

Look at the chart

Ready supply of taxpayers!
 
That's a nice theory that does not play out in the real world. Many failing companies hand out golden parachutes to outgoing executives. Corporate boards where everyone sits on each other's boards. Private equity firms that buy up companies, extract all the value they can, then shut it down. The ratios of executive compensation to average worker salary are not supported by any sort of economic logic other than those with power using it to their own betterment.

All that said yes of course this plays out at the government level too. Corruption at all levels is unfortunately not being addressed very well in the current moment.

jeff

Interesting that you say that.

Back when the Dot.com explosion inflated the stock market, California politcians voted to change the retirement pension formula, increasing their payouts. Not long afterwards, the market crashed and the state was in big trouble, with hundreds of BILLIONS of debt, a signifant chunk of that because of employee pensions.
 
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Major difference: private companies need to set salaries such that the company remains profitable. Government entities have the "limitless" taxbase to suck money out of.
If you believe governmant workers make more than the private sector, then why don't more people work for the government instead of private?
 
If you believe governmant workers make more than the private sector, then why don't more people work for the government instead of private?
MANY do work for the government. And more would, but there are only so many jobs.

One of my golf buddies worked for the IRS, retired at 55 years old with a $8k/month pension, and a couple million in a 401k. He was a professional level worker, not even a manager. Yes, this is a government worker, not state level, but the state guys do basically the same. My old next door neighbor was a retired cop. He worked until 65, and was making $95k/year on his pension.
 
I wonder how many folks here on BITOG regret going to college and would have chosen a different path ?

Spent their tuition money differently ?
 
I wonder how many folks here on BITOG regret going to college and would have chosen a different path ?

Spent their tuition money differently ?

I doubt many. A degree opens doors. It doesn't mean competence, but regardless, doors open that would otherwise be closed. And most people with a degree are hard workers, with forward-thinking.
 
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I doubt many. A degree opens doors. It doesn't mean competence, but regardless, doors open that would otherwise be closed. And most people with a degree are hard workers, with forward-thinking.

Sometimes a degree can open door sometimes not.

I know a guy with 2 masters degrees and struggling. He was expecting some corporate type executive position and working as a supply clerk at a hospital. In this economy knowing the right person helps.

Imagine if he put the same money in the stock market over the past 10 years…. ?
 
Sometimes a degree can open door sometimes not.

I know a guy with 2 masters degrees and struggling. He was expecting some corporate type executive position and working as a supply clerk at a hospital. In this economy knowing the right person helps.

Imagine if he put the same money in the stock market over the past 10 years…. ?
They can take away your 401k, your land, your savings.... Your freedom... They can't take away your education.
 
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