Citgo motor oil (10W-30 SUPERGARD)

[kas]

Hi guys, any comments for Citgo Superguard 10W-30? Is it a mineral or semi synthetic oil?

I'm currently using RP 10W-30, thinking of switching to Citgo as its alot cheaper.

Tks

Specs: http://www.docs.citgo.com/msds_pi/355111.pdf

 

[JonS]

I think this is one of the best dino oils. You will love it. I use it (5w-30) in my wifes Altima, and it runs so quiet and smooth with it, i can't even hear it running. I also run it in my v-8 Ford boat engine. It is a dino oil.

 

[mikemc]

It's an SM rated dino so it should do well for you.

 

[tenderloin]

Buried in the dark corners of Dollar Tree stores you might find that same oil...for $1.00 I have seEn maybe 30 QTS BETWEEN 3 STORES

 

[Scali62]

I've been depressed it's no longer for sale in my area..

 

[y_p_w]

Is the oil available to the OP even the same thing that we might find in the US? I'd think it might be more practical to simply market a relabelled oil produced locally rather than ship large quantities of oil from overseas.

 

[GrtArtiste]

I don't claim to understand the specifications as listed above. It was my impression that any name brand dino these days is probably "good" and it would be hard to find anything that was really "bad". But I have to ask...is there really any justification in these specs or elsewhere that Supergard is one of the "best", that is...substantially better than competitors such as Chevron, Mobil, Halvoline, Formula Shell, Valvoline, QS or Pennzoil? Or is is just a good bang for the buck (.69 US after rebate)? (maybe I should buy some more)

GrtArtiste

[ May 27, 2005, 08:29 PM: Message edited by: GrtArtiste ]

 

[wileyE]

SM GF-4 at .69cent is a great deal, I'd put citgo right there with all the brands you list. jmho

 

[kas]

Hi guys,

What is the recommended OCI for this oil? Will be doing mainly city driving.

Thanks

 

[haley10]

quote:

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Originally posted by y_p_w:
Is the oil available to the OP even the same thing that we might find in the US? I'd think it might be more practical to simply market a relabelled oil produced locally rather than ship large quantities of oil from overseas.

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You make a good point. Citgo USA is the boys in Venezuela, so it's hard to believe a product bought in Singapore would be exactly the same formulation.

 

[Curious Kid]

Something I think is very interesting, is that in a freezer test where temps are around 0 deg f, Citgo superguard 5w-30 SM/G4 flows much better than Castrol Syntec blend 5w-30 SM/G4.

I think I'll try this brand of oil over the winter, which thus far I have spotted at several grocery stores no less...and will do another freezer test with a used sample at the end of it's OCI to see how the run effects it's cold flow properties.

It's not exactly scientific, but fun for the layperson non-the-less.

 

[Curious Kid]

Just for clarification, the Citgo in the comparison with Castrol was their dino, not a blend.

And..."G4" was meant to be "GF-4"...my bad.

I'm thinking of running this oil for winter, and then the Castrol blend plus a qt. of GC 0w-30 or their 5w-40 Syntec (non-GC) to boost the HTHS and add some esters to aid in cleanliness. Any thoughts? Yes I know, running a reasonable OCI and the fact that oils are well formulated...but I can't seem to help it!

 

[Blue99]

Citgo 5W-30 is another winner in the "great value" category, as it provides respectable performance for a buck a quart.

Here's a comparison of Trop Artic & Citgo 5W-30 that I posted in an earlier thread.

Trop Artic has Grp III in the formulation, and it's interesting to see that Citgo, with some Grp I per the Citgo MSDS , generates very similar data.

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TropArtic Citgo

5W-30 5W-30



Flash Point 430 442



Viscosity 10.9 10.8

100C



VI Index 163 161



Cold Vis 5300 5490

@ -30C



HTHS 3.1 3.1

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[lobo11]

They have an impressive additive package in my opinion. Check out the VOA section.

 

[pmt]

quote:

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Originally posted by Blue99:

Here's a comparison of Trop Artic & Citgo 5W-30 that I posted in an earlier thread.

Trop Artic has Grp III in the formulation, and it's interesting to see that Citgo, with some Grp I per the Citgo MSDS , generates very similar data.

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TropArtic Citgo

5W-30 5W-30



Flash Point 430 442



Viscosity 10.9 10.8

100C



VI Index 163 161



Cold Vis 5300 5490

@ -30C



HTHS 3.1 3.1

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To: Blue99
I'm assuming that these both are SM, GF-4 oils. If so, Citgo getting GF-4 performance using Group I base stock is pretty impressive - due to strong additive package? I can remember when some on this forum believed that the only way a dino oil could meet GF-4 was to use Group II or higher base stock. More than one way the skin the SM/GF-4 cat.
I ran Citgo 5W-30 in my 2003 GMC last Fall for awhile (2100 mi) and Blackstone said the UOA wear rates were barely above typical VOA numbers. Guess Group I isn't so bad afer all.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Citgo superguard 5w-30 SM/G4 flows much better than Castrol Syntec blend 5w-30 SM/G4.
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It's thin as heck in 5W-30 when I drained it from my daughter's ride. Like Campbell soup broth... lol

A year ago, I purchased two cases of Citgo synthetic 5W-30 (Motor-Trend at Meijer). I beef up each oil change with one quart of 10W-30 and a bottle of STP 4-Cylinder Oil Treatment for added calcium/phosphorous

[ June 09, 2005, 01:37 PM: Message edited by: Triple_Se7en ]

 

[lobo11]

GF-4 can be meet with correction fluids, usually of the Group III variety. There are some posts with links from Chevron that deal with their basestocks that confirm this.

 

[lobo11]

In addition this could have a lot to do with the Citgo crude. From Chemistry & Technology of Lubricants, second edition: "The Nigerian & Venezuelan distillates are examples of naphthenic products because they are relatively low in alkane content. In particular, the Venezuelan distillate is wax-free, and so no de-waxing step is required."

 

[kas]

Dispite being a mineral oil, the specs for Citgo 5W-30 looks impressive.

Here is the data of RP 10W-30 for comparison.

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Royal Purple 10W-30 SL/GF-3



cSt @ 100°C 13.8

Flash Point 455°F

Fire Point 480°F

VI Index 141

Cold Vis @ -30°C 18200

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[TallPaul]

For a really killer Citgo, try Citgo Superguard Ultralife (high mileage version).