I agree that the US-made Red Label is without question old, pre-GC stock. You can tell, even without the batch number, from the lack of the "BP Group" logo, which appears on the GC bottle, just below and slightly to the right of the "Castrol North America" blurb which is in the lower left corner of the rear label. I believe it was in '03 (maybe '04) that BP absorbed Castrol, and at that point, their logo went onto the bottles. It's on all of them now, so if the fabled post-GC US-made Red Label really exists, I would expect to see an M05xxx (or very late M04xxx) batch number, AND the BP Group logo on the back too. So far, I've seen no such stock in the 15 or so AZs that I have occasion to visit from time to time.
Castrol Syntec 0W30 Red Label GC vs. Red Label USA
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Originally posted by zoomzoom:
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AZ goes by bar codes, which are apparently the same for all Castrol 0W-30. It looks like they are clearing it out in the Desert SW and Calif. Too bad, but it must not sell.
I think the $3.99 is the best we'll see here in the East on sale.
I have no application for the USA stuff, even at $1. A1 and SL only.
Pea water.
I think the $3.99 is the best we'll see here in the East on sale.
I have no application for the USA stuff, even at $1. A1 and SL only.
I called several AZ's in/near Nashville, all have it all full price. 2 guys thought I was nuts to even think that Syntec would EVER be $1.00 qt!quote:
Originally posted by haley10:
I think the $3.99 is the best we'll see here in the East on sale.
I have no application for the USA stuff, even at $1. A1 and SL only.Pea water.
Is the Red-label stuff THAT BAD?
It went off sale 2/12 at 3.99 a quart. AZ employees don't know. It scans at full price $5.19 and then shows a discount when the electronic register rings it up. Asking get's you nowhere.quote:
Originally posted by ToyotaNSaturn:
I called several AZ's in/near Nashville, all have it all full price. 2 guys thought I was nuts to even think that Syntec would EVER be $1.00 qt!quote:
Originally posted by haley10:
I think the $3.99 is the best we'll see here in the East on sale.
I have no application for the USA stuff, even at $1. A1 and SL only.Pea water.
Is the Red-label stuff THAT BAD?
Is it that bad? No, might be ok in extreme cold or an engine that specs. 5W-20, but it has no Ford or Honda specs. It's just that it's a totally different oil from GC. No A3/B3, low HT/HS, not for extended drains A1.
Hopefully I can put this to rest...the Elves have NOT offered their formula to anyone anywhere (including the good old US of A). IF you should see a US made version of Castrol with A3..BMW...etc specs, it will be Castrol's best shot at the Elixer-----BUT-----it will still be lacking the heart of what makes GC GC...there will be NO Elfen magic...and without that, well its back to Mobil 1 or Pennzoil Platinum or Redline or Amsoil or.....
Well, after my findings tonight, it's back to the reliable guys anyway. Only 6 quarts of GC left
Not for sale outside the Americas?
North America/South America.
The only AZ sale we had here was Hav Syn and Maxlife Syn $2. GC $5.19 qt
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