I saw this yesterday at Supercheap. Anybody know if it's the 'real thing' or usual Castrol Group III ripoff? It's ACEA A3/A4/B3/B4 and BMW Longlife OIL certified.
Castrol Formula R 0W40
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How much was it, in comparison the Mobil 1 and Castrol Syntec?
I'd say if it meets those specs, it probably doesn't matter what it's made from, though it's probably Group IV/V.
I'd say if it meets those specs, it probably doesn't matter what it's made from, though it's probably Group IV/V.
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Do you have a link to any tecnical specs?
THe Castrol Formula RS is a real synthetic unlike the new Magnatec, as its a group III. Also, one of the GTX's (in Europe at least) is also a group III, so be careful! You CAN'T go wrong IMHO though, w/ Castrol's Formula RS. The only Formula RS we can buy here in the states is the 10w-60. Whoopie! What am I gonna use that in @ $13 usd/qt?
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The link that Joee provided is for Castrol R 0W40, didn't say anything about an RS.
Unless we see an MSDS sheet, I am going to assume its a majority Group III base with low levels of PAO and maybe some esters. In other words, without the MSDS, it appears to be a blend.
Unless we see an MSDS sheet, I am going to assume its a majority Group III base with low levels of PAO and maybe some esters. In other words, without the MSDS, it appears to be a blend.
Vis at 100C is 12.9, at 40C 73.6, CCS at 35C is 5200, HTHS 3.6, Pour point -54, Base no 10.3, MB 229.3 etc from data sheet.
Molakule:
I would suggest that either its is a re-named product (i.e. RS-the 'S') or, its a typo. And yes, I still say its a real syn. because of the way oils are marketed there. I know that in Germany, where they are required to specify (ie. HC Synthetics or Full Synthetics) type of oil, its listed a a full syn. and not an HC syn. Of course this may only be in Germany. However, I do ask this: "Is the Formula 'R' available in a 10w-60 too.?" If so then, this would probably be the formulation as sold in Europe. Perhaps, and perhaps not.
I would suggest that either its is a re-named product (i.e. RS-the 'S') or, its a typo. And yes, I still say its a real syn. because of the way oils are marketed there. I know that in Germany, where they are required to specify (ie. HC Synthetics or Full Synthetics) type of oil, its listed a a full syn. and not an HC syn. Of course this may only be in Germany. However, I do ask this: "Is the Formula 'R' available in a 10w-60 too.?" If so then, this would probably be the formulation as sold in Europe. Perhaps, and perhaps not.
Yup 10W60 and 5W30. I'm surprised it's 5W30 and not 10W30 as Mobil Oz said 0W30 and 5W30 are useless! Still Castrol must think differently. The oil is about A$85 for a 5.28 US quart (5 litres) jug. Thats more than M1 0W40 and I know which I prefer.
HTHS of 3.6 is pretty weak for a SAE 40
Jason,
You will note that the kinematic viscosity @ 100C is 12.9 centistokes, so this is barely a 40wt grade. This is why the HT/HS is only 3.6. Cp.
This is typical of many of the 0w-40, "Euro" synthetics intended for passenger car use. They are formulated just thick enough to meet the ACEA A3/B4 requirement of 3.5 Cp for HT/HS viscosity. The 0w-40, Mobil 1 Tri-synthetic had a HT/HS of 3.55 Cp for example.
TS
You will note that the kinematic viscosity @ 100C is 12.9 centistokes, so this is barely a 40wt grade. This is why the HT/HS is only 3.6. Cp.
This is typical of many of the 0w-40, "Euro" synthetics intended for passenger car use. They are formulated just thick enough to meet the ACEA A3/B4 requirement of 3.5 Cp for HT/HS viscosity. The 0w-40, Mobil 1 Tri-synthetic had a HT/HS of 3.55 Cp for example.
TS
Yeah, those early 0W40s were quite thin.
Now we have 5W30s with HTHS of 3.6
Now we have 5W30s with HTHS of 3.6
Originally Posted By: used_0il
Yeah, those early 0W40s were quite thin.
Now we have 5W30s with HTHS of 3.6
Duuude, this thread was 13 years old! What are you doing!?
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Yeah, those early 0W40s were quite thin.
Now we have 5W30s with HTHS of 3.6
Duuude, this thread was 13 years old! What are you doing!?
~ Triton
Hi,
I am totally bewildered...............!!
Why bring up a 13 years old Thread - what is your purpose and intent?????
I am totally bewildered...............!!
Why bring up a 13 years old Thread - what is your purpose and intent?????
Originally Posted By: used_0il
Yeah, those early 0W40s were quite thin.
Now we have 5W30s with HTHS of 3.6
I used that one back in the day, in my diesel Nissan, because it was a 40, and it was thin (hmmm, not what I'm accused of normally).
Yeah, those early 0W40s were quite thin.
Now we have 5W30s with HTHS of 3.6
I used that one back in the day, in my diesel Nissan, because it was a 40, and it was thin (hmmm, not what I'm accused of normally).
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