Castrol Edge

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Castrol have just launched a new range of oils in the UK called Castrol Egde. Castrol Edge As best I can tell, this is just a rebranding of existing oils with a few minor tweeks. For example Edge 0W-30 appears to be the same as SLX Longtec (aka Gold GC) but now SM rated. The only 'new' oil is the 5W-30 which meets the new VW504 & 507 standards. I find it interesting that there are two 10W-60 oils listed, one specifically for BMW 'M' cars.
 
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Originally posted by Johnny: You get all the neat stuff in the UK. Love those bottles.
The new 5 qt jugs in the US are similar in shape. However, our qt bottles are still the same frumpy style Castrol has had for years (excepting the Syntec bottles).
 
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Originally posted by shanneba: The data sheet says it is good for up to 30,000 miles (50,000 km)! Rated API SM too. Edge 0w-30
VW/Audi used that service interval here some time ago (02-03) (variable long life service) for the 1.9 TDI engine. Now they're back at 18,750 miles (30,000 km).
 
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The specs/performance are close to GC, MB 229.1 is missing as well as being API SM. Could this become the SM version of GC? The ASTM D5293 rating seems a little better at 5800 @ -35C where GC is rated at 6200 @ -35C
 
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The new 5 qt jugs in the US are similar in shape. However, our qt bottles are still the same frumpy style Castrol has had for years (excepting the Syntec bottles).
I've always liked that bottle shape. It's distinctive, anyway.
 
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The Edge products are Group 3 base oil based, along the lines of the TXT products. This range of products pretty much seems to be the standard called for by major OEMs on their long service interval, high performance models (ie. BMW most models, Renault, MB etc) They are branded full synthetic, however some argue that these base oils being hyro-isomerized mineral oils (cracking of large molecules into smaller ones, reconstructing cracked waxes into branched paraffins - giving good VI, excellent low temp props) are still super refined mineral oils. The Edge products are still not in the performance league of PAO (Olefin Oligomers) products like Castrol RS or TWS Motorsport (BMW product for the M3/5). However, they also cost substantially less, hence their being more attractive to the market in general. You pay your money, you take your choices. The more you pay, the better oil you buy. [Wink]
 

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Whait a second... Are you saying that Castrol Edge is a group 3 based oil? How can it be since Edge pretty much matches SLX in its various standard conformations and seems to be a very similar blend? Castrol SLX is a Group IV/V blend.
 
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Originally posted by Achilles: The Edge products are Group 3 base oil based
Yeah, right. [Roll Eyes]
 
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Originally posted by vad: Whait a second... Are you saying that Castrol Edge is a group 3 based oil? How can it be since Edge pretty much matches SLX in its various standard conformations and seems to be a very similar blend? Castrol SLX is a Group IV/V blend.
Don't pay any attention to this guy. It's easy to jump in here and post that these oils are Group III, but quite something else to prove it. He doesn't even support his contention with any sort of rational argument absent direct proof. It's just a bald-face assertion, which is worthless.
 
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According to MSDS Castrol SLX Longtec is Gr.III/IV blend, but meets number of latest OEM requirements including those of 30-50K oil interval (GM 025). TotalElfFina oils also offers a similar base stock oils that are fine for different applications. Seems now oil manufacturers don't consider a base stock is a priority No.1 an average driver has to look for, or, may be, they found a "gold" blend of base stocks and additive package that satisfies latest OEMs need without an increase of a product cost.
 
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Originally posted by Primus: According to MSDS Castrol SLX Longtec is Gr.III/IV blend, ...
Really? How about posting a link to the MSDS and the relevant portion that shows this oil is a Group III/IV blend.
 
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Originally posted by Patman: There is no way it has group 3 as part of it's base oil, otherwise there is no way it could go 50,000km at all.
I'm not sure about that. We've just seen an outstanding UOA where a Group II+ oil (Havoline) went over 12,000 miles. What we are starting to see is the advent of Group II base oils produced using Chevron's IsoSyn catalysts that can match the performance levels that Group III had five years ago, and Group III base oils can now equal the performance levels of PAO. The line between "conventional" and "synthetic" oils is getting much more blurred when you judge them based on performance and not definitions of what is and is not "synthetic."
 
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