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Wonder how many dealerships will be forced to watch their vehicles just sit..............sit............sit.....on their lots even longer now. They have already been very hard to move, we have all been reading even before the tariffs. I think their total greed factor has finally caught up with them too. They kept creeping prices up no matter how much their profits have increased by moving the majority of everything involved in manufacture of vehicles to the cheapest places on earth. They drove their costs down so their profit margins must have went way up while at same time all they did for consumers is kept raising the prices as much as they figure they can get away with. Maybe they finally crossed a line with many buyers?
 
Wonder how many dealerships will be forced to watch their vehicles just sit..............sit............sit.....on their lots even longer now. They have already been very hard to move, we have all been reading even before the tariffs. I think their total greed factor has finally caught up with them too. They kept creeping prices up no matter how much their profits have increased by moving the majority of everything involved in manufacture of vehicles to the cheapest places on earth. They drove their costs down so their profit margins must have went way up while at same time all they did for consumers is kept raising the prices as much as they figure they can get away with. Maybe they finally crossed a line with many buyers?
Dealerships are in the business of making money. The pandemic hurt a lot, now the tariffs....
It's a mess. Glad I'm not in the car market right now, new or used.
 
Yes business is there to make money. The way dealerships have been making money makes me care a lot less if they go under.
I am not sure what the profitability is, but I'm sure it can vary greatly.
For example, there are numerous Lexus dealerships around here. One of the biggest in the nation is Lexus of Stevens Creek; they basically say pay MSRP or don't let the door hit ya on your way out. Putnam Lexus is one of the last family owned dealerships. Very small in comparison. Putnam beats everyone on price. I've bought 4 cars there. They will trade with another dealership to get you the car you want, if possible.

Now parts is another story. Stevens Creek is my go to....

I have no love for most dealerships; dealerships are not your friend.
 
Wonder how many dealerships will be forced to watch their vehicles just sit..............sit............sit.....on their lots even longer now. They have already been very hard to move, we have all been reading even before the tariffs. I think their total greed factor has finally caught up with them too. They kept creeping prices up no matter how much their profits have increased by moving the majority of everything involved in manufacture of vehicles to the cheapest places on earth. They drove their costs down so their profit margins must have went way up while at same time all they did for consumers is kept raising the prices as much as they figure they can get away with. Maybe they finally crossed a line with many buyers?
Yeah the crystal ball says, in the next 10 years there could be 2025 NOS brand new cars with window stickers still for sale.
Or they will all have been written off and crushed just so people can have jobs building new ones and keep repeating the cycle. :ROFLMAO:
 
Tarriffs can be used stratigically to protect our industries in certain situations.

Tarriffs only work in 2 scenarios

1. Industry is about to outsource (take steel in the 70’s and 80’s)
2. A foreign competitor makes something disruptive that you can never recover from usually by being subsidized to a below market .

Once a infrastructure intensive industry leaves it’s never coming back.
 
Tarriffs only work in 2 scenarios

1. Industry is about to outsource (take steel in the 70’s and 80’s)
2. A foreign competitor makes something disruptive that you can never recover from usually by being subsidized to a below market .

Once a infrastructure intensive industry leaves it’s never coming back.
Tariffs worked brillianty in Japan and Korea, after war decemated their industrial/ manufacturing base, and both countries deep in debt.

A note on Korea (look where Korea is today):
Destruction ratios of major industries during the first four months of the war were estimated as high as 70% of textile industry, 70% of chemical industry, 40% of agricultural machinery industry, and 10% of rubber industry (ECA Report, October, 1950). In addition, the Korea Transportation Ministry statistics revealed that about 600 thousand housing units, 46.9% of railroad, 1,656 roads of a total of 500km, and 1,453 bridges totaling 49km were destroyed during the war. Furthermore, by August of 1951, 44% of factory buildings and 42% of production facilities lay in ruins.
 
I messed up big time. We been in the market (too long actually). I let LIFE...... I am giving one of my cars to my nephew who helps me around the house a lot. He has not been ready. Suspended license , so I had too much patience with him and been waiting for him. All kind of other things too, I allowed to cause us to keep putting it off. I cant blame it all on him. Now we will be in for it when we do start the shopping around for the next one. Ugh. I am never lucky at things like that. Only good thing is I am not desperate for one. So maybe 😱I have a bit , a tiny bit of leverage. Still will likely get laughed out the dealerships if I do attempt to deal now. They should not be called DEALERships at all.
 
Ideally, you shop when you don't really have to buy a vehicle right now.
That gives you the ability to make hard offers and to walk from dealers that won't play along.
There does seem to be a lot of inventory out there.
Is it just me, or do dealers seem to be hiding inventory off-site that you also don't see on their websites?
The impression of shortage may be a tool to improve the dealers' leverage in dealing with buyers, or I may be all wet on this.
 
Is it just me, or do dealers seem to be hiding inventory off-site that you also don't see on their websites?
The impression of shortage may be a tool to improve the dealers' leverage in dealing with buyers, or I may be all wet on this.
Toyota dealer where I got my cars shows cars that are in the pipeline but not yet to their lot. Similarly aggravating.
 
Tariffs worked brillianty in Japan and Korea, after war decemated their industrial/ manufacturing base, and both countries deep in debt.

A note on Korea (look where Korea is today):
Destruction ratios of major industries during the first four months of the war were estimated as high as 70% of textile industry, 70% of chemical industry, 40% of agricultural machinery industry, and 10% of rubber industry (ECA Report, October, 1950). In addition, the Korea Transportation Ministry statistics revealed that about 600 thousand housing units, 46.9% of railroad, 1,656 roads of a total of 500km, and 1,453 bridges totaling 49km were destroyed during the war. Furthermore, by August of 1951, 44% of factory buildings and 42% of production facilities lay in ruins.
There could be books written on all the non-tarriff factors that went alongside the recovery in either country. The era it occurred was in no small way important.

The most effective tarriff is one that isn’t really needed after a short period of time.
 
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There could be books written on all the non-tarriff factors that went alongside the recovery in either country. The era it occurred was in no small way important.

The most effective tarriff is one that isn’t really needed after a short period of time

Very tough for a nation very deeply in debt, decimated indis
Mike Rowe recently reported the U.S. has 7 million able bodied adult males currently not working.

We need to be Americans, not Americant's.
 
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