Canadian tire...again

[Technarch]

I ran quite a few 4L bottles of the 5w30 full synth CT stuff in my car. While I have no oil analyses I can tell you how it performs on a 2.0 Zetec 4-banger.

It starts out thick, then shears down to a 20. I know this because the engine gets easier to rev as the km's march on. I don't see this as a disadvantage.

It consumes oil. Less comes out than what was poured in. Maybe as much as a litre. Hard to measure this accurately however. What comes out looks quite dark.

The GC is better for highway driving by far than this oil, but this oil is better for city driving than GC.

 

[Baveux]

Technarch, dont take me wrong but let me take your post for what it is, an opinion.

Thick at the beginning ??? 40 c 58.1 at 100c 10.3 not thick in my book.

Now that you can feel that an oil thin or shear to a W20 by feeling the RPM... not sure about it....

Oil dark ?, just doing its job.

Oil consumption...maybe

GC for highway and CT for city driving hummm....

I am not a specialist but you know what ? do like me and keep reading this board !!!

there is so much too learn

 

[Dr. T]

Yeah that is interesting....I've heard changing oil for seasons, but one oil for city driving and another for highway...that's a new one on me...

 

[Yuk]

I'm not sure I get the city vs hwy thing either

, but maybe Technarch's thoughts are legit. Sometimes ideas get crossed up when writen. This is someth'n i'm sperienced with, cause I don't alwaz right so good.

Technarch, Can you explain to us dummies what you mean by a city vs hwy oil?

 

[heyjay]

In the mid 80's (Remember Duran Duran? I guess not ...) somebody told me that Imperial Oil (Esso) made the Canadian Tire brand "Nugold" oil and their HD diesel oil.

If that was the case, the Canadian Tire brand HD diesel oil would have been about 20% cheaper than buying Esso XD-3 at my local Esso bulk dealer.

However, Imperial Oil refused to disclose who they blend for - I can understand that. Canadian Tire also refused to supply me any detailed specs, so all I ever buy from them is laundry detergent and floor cleaner.

I believe an oil should get darker as time goes on. That means the detergents are doing their job keeping the motor clean.

How much oil consumption are we talking about? One litre every 3,000km or one litre every 10,000km? If the former, that's not good at all, if the latter, that's good.

Jerry

 

[Baveux]

I'm done doing that research.
The information below have been confirmed by both partie.

Shell supply all engine oil under Motomaster and Formula 1 brand name.

All product come from their installation in Calgary and Brockville Ontario.

Their synthetic is 100% PAO

Synth blend are 40% synth 60% mineral.

Shell refused to supply the tech data sheet since that should stay confidential.

According to Shell their oil is a better quality than CT, on the other hand another technician at Shell told me that CT is not a big enough customer for Shell to deserve a special brew.

Canadian tire sent me a summary of their tech data sheet for their oil and frankly the number looks similar, few number here and there aren't the same but they are so close to each other that you wonder if they are not changing them a little just to look different.

So it is reasonable to beleive that when you buy CT oil you are buying the real Shell oil.

How important it is for an oil to wear the Jaso T 903 MA rating. I'm asking that since many Shell oil carry this certification when most of the other don't ?

 

[Arved]

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Originally posted by Baveux:
How important it is for an oil to wear the Jaso T 903 MA rating.

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The rating pertains to clutch slippage in motorcycles that use wet clutches. If you're not using this oil in a motorcycle application, it's of no concern, and should not be used as an indicator of oil quality.

OTOH, if you're using this oil in a motorcycle that shares the motor oil between the crankcase, wet clutch, and transmission (most models of motorcycles), then this may be of value.

HTH,
- Arved

 

[Baveux]

Duran Duran

Nothing like Ozzy and Black Sabbath !

Regarding the Can tire oil, yes I had that problem many years ago, but with the Internet its easy , a few email and they respond to it quickly.I agree that I would not buy their stuff before having a good idea about it.

 

[Baveux]

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Originally posted by Arved:

quote:

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Originally posted by Baveux:
How important it is for an oil to wear the Jaso T 903 MA rating.

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The rating pertains to clutch slippage in motorcycles that use wet clutches. If you're not using this oil in a motorcycle application, it's of no concern, and should not be used as an indicator of oil quality.

OTOH, if you're using this oil in a motorcycle that shares the motor oil between the crankcase, wet clutch, and transmission (most models of motorcycles), then this may be of value.

HTH,
- Arved

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Thanks Arved

 

[Technarch]

Well what I meant was, with an oil that I perceive as 'thick' is that the car and engine feels like it is heavy and has a lot of inertia.. Takes a long time to spin up and a long time to spin down.. Ideal for highway when a constant velocity is used for long periods of time.

What I perceive as 'thin' is an oil that spins up and down fast, a twitchy gas pedal. Good for stop and go traffic.

I'm hypersensitive to my car because it's had problems, so I'm always watching out for new symptoms. Plus, it's not a V6 or a V8.. little changes are more noticable. I have an underdrive pulley for example, that made a huge difference in throttle response from stops, or when the air conditioner is running.