Caltex Havoline 10W-50 Synthetic

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I am still deciding what oil to put in my reconditioned 304 V8 I was going to use M1 5W-50 but then I found that there is a Havoline 10W-50 synthetic available. http://www.caltex.com.au/products_oil_detail.asp?id=278&area=1 SAE Grade 10W-50 Density at 15°C, kg/L 0.894 Base Number, D2896, mg KOH/g 10.3 Base Number, D4739, mg KOH/g 9.8 Flash Point, °C 210 Pour Point, °C -30 Phosphorus, %m 0.10 Sulfated Ash, %m 1.1 Viscosity, cSt at 40°C 126 Viscosity, cSt at 100°C 18.5 Viscosity Index 165 Zinc, %m 0.11 API: SL, SJ, SH API: CF ACEA: A3-02, B3-98, B4-02 Mercedes-Benz: 229.3 Volkswagen: 502.00 M1 5W-50 costs approx $AU 65 for 5l while the Havoline costs $AU 48 What do you guys think of this oil??
 
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Andrew, Those of us from OOTLNOO (One of The Lands North of Oz) are at a disadvantage when it comes to Caltex Havoline 10W50 'cause we don't have it. I will tell you Havoline from US Texaco in its Group I/II and its Group III forms has an excellent reputation; however, I can give you some things to consider: I'm not sure the Caltex is a full synthetic; it might be a Group III oil (unless you have rules in Oz that are very specific about what can be sold there as a "synthetic.") Caltex Mobil SAE Grade 10W-50 5W-50 Flash Point, °C 210 240 Pour Point, °C -30 -54 Viscosity, cSt at 40°C 126 102 Viscosity, cSt at 100°C 18.5 17.3 Viscosity Index 165 187 API: SL, SJ, SH SJ/CF/EC (prob SL by now) API: CF ACEA: A3-02, B3-98, B4-02 A3/B3/B4-98 (prob UD by now) Mercedes-Benz: 229.3 229.3 Volkswagen: 502.00 505.00 HT/HS 4.4 I didn't use the formatting magic so the numbers have run together...1st are Caltex...2d are M1 except HT/HS which I only had for M1. You probably won't go wrong with the Caltex and I'd say it comes down to HT/HS for the Caltex and whether you want a thicker oil (Caltex) or a slightly thinner 50wt with a great cold cranking advantage. I'd go with the M1 unless you consider the cost too dear.
 
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I don't suppose cold cranking performance would be an issue in Sydney. What are the advantages of a synthetic in a moderate climate? An Sae 30 or 40 CF/SJ or a CI-4/SL 15W40 is all ya need. Save your money for important things, like Shellas and beer.
 
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Andrew, I think the specs for M1 5W-50 look much better. Caltex 10W-50 is probably a group III oil. It just comes down to what you are willing to spend. Caltex 10W-50 will probably give you very good performance and the engine may very well out live the rest of the car.
 

Andrew

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I spoke to a Caltex Aus tech and originally he thought it was a Group III. However, he then changed his mind and assured me it was a Group IV (PAO) base oil. Will double check another day to be sure
 
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