Seriously thinking about one of these. I'm leaning towards the 70 as I don't need 3rd row seating. Any issues known out there? What makes the turbo s version higher output? Different tuning? I was thinking of cross shopping the vw atlas cross sport as well as I think it's very nice looking but a little leary with reliability...any insight on these two vehicles would be appreciated.
Calling all Mazda owners esp.cx70/90
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My signature shows my two VWs. Only warranty work was on the Passat.... window mechanism neededd adjusted; it was about five minutes. Dipstick tube worked loose. Repaired in a very short period. Both cars run like tops. My Passat with the 2 liter gives well over 40 mpg on trips. Love both cars and the dealers and their service.
They’ve been having some new car pains. We considered one and were anxious for them to come out…we were sorely disappointed when the local dealer got them in and we got to look at it. We didn’t even need a test drive. Odd layout, cramped interior, lack of cargo space.
I know you didn’t say hybrid, but they seem to have some hybrid battery issues.
All of them seem to have some quirks here and there. I think I’ve read the drive is great (kind of to be expected with a Mazda) but front end noises with no real fix, brake noises, tires only lasting about 15-20k miles, clunky shifting qualities (I think the shifting was just early builds and fixed w/ software).
Every new vehicle we considered we’d join the Facebook specific groups for them and read up.
I know you didn’t say hybrid, but they seem to have some hybrid battery issues.
All of them seem to have some quirks here and there. I think I’ve read the drive is great (kind of to be expected with a Mazda) but front end noises with no real fix, brake noises, tires only lasting about 15-20k miles, clunky shifting qualities (I think the shifting was just early builds and fixed w/ software).
Every new vehicle we considered we’d join the Facebook specific groups for them and read up.
A CX-7 model would have been intersting slotting it between the former CX-5 and CX-9 … I prefer a traditional SUV which sits up higher than the new lower sitting model Mazdas .
Now digging a little deeper into them I agree seems their having some teething pains..
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The lack of a torque converter and the electric first gear is a deal breaker for me. The downright strange driving experience when starting from a stop would drive me nuts.
I was under the impression a straight 6 would be good (Jeep 4.0 anyone?). But this thing looks like a nightmare to work on, and I’ve read the same.
It doesn’t have an electric first gear…
The mild hybrid system helps out during takeoff, but the engine is doing most of the work
The packaging under the bonnet (I’m Australian and we don’t call them ‘hoods’, sorry) is no worse than say a BMW, with the difference being Mazda has a track record of reliability with its current powertrains.
I agree they’re probably not that fun to work on, but they shouldn’t need much working on, if that makes sense.
Of course, they’re too early to guarantee that, but based on Mazda’s historical reliability I would have no issues owning one (and, as a mechanic myself, working on one).
I was leary when my wife picked a new 2018 Tiguan as high mileage commuter. We now have 178k and only one issue that we just missed a free service bulletin to fix ignition wiring harness. Our most troublefree vehicle including Subaru , Honda and Acura.
Mazda looks sweet though.
Mazda looks sweet though.
I too was impatiently waiting for CX-70 release just to get disappointed it was simply a variant of CX-90 which has a questionable engine design and layout according to CarCareGuy. Europe has CX-60, we in NA don't, I thought CX-70 would sit between 60 and 90.
I'll be replacing both cars within next 1-3 years and was keeping my eyes open on potential purchases.
I'll be replacing both cars within next 1-3 years and was keeping my eyes open on potential purchases.
I’ve just read of engine removal being necessary for a few repairs that you wouldn’t think would be such a big deal. I don’t remember what they all were right now, but it was surprising. One of them may have been that it has a timing chain at the back? I may be wrong, but I’ve definitely read of repairs requiring engine removal.
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The engine does nothing in its initial acceleration from a stop. Call it whatever you want, it’s annoying.
Yes, the timing chain on the six cylinders is at the back - like almost all Euro engines these days.
But my point is, unlike those Euros where not only is engine removal required for those repairs but they also fail often so the engine will likely be coming out, the Mazda is unlikely to require those repairs (based on Mazda’s historical reliability).
Their Skyactiv 2.0 and 2.5L engines statistically have zero timing chain issues, for example. So the likelihood of having timing chain issues on the 3.3L seems very low
TCs are in the rear requiring engine removal so they say..
I knew about these and was looking into them years ago. I had really hoped Mazda would "get it right", but they didn't. At all. I would absolutely buy an X3M40i instead.
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