Calif fires - insurance losses not adding up

[GON]

If we ever have to move from here for environmental or water problems I can guarantee it won't be to Detroit, Toledo, Gary, Davenport, or Shreveport.

It's sounds funny, but some people much smarter than me have suggested due to water shortages and other factors, those areas, do to fresh water availability, will see a renaissance and a population movement from both coasts to area like those in the next 25-50 years.

I am quite sure the people who migrated because of the dust bowl never saw their move coming, until the situation left little options.

His theory is essentially that freshwater availability will dictate where people live.

 

[SC Maintenance]

If we ever have to move from here for environmental or water problems I can guarantee it won't be to Detroit, Toledo, Gary, Davenport, or Shreveport.

Yes, I am pretty sure I would rather live under a bridge here than anywhere in Gary Indiana or Detroit proper. The other 3 - Toledo, Davenport, or Shreveport I have been to, albeit a while ago, and I might consider it for the right amount of money.

 

[SC Maintenance]

It's sounds funny, but some people much smarter than me have suggested due to water shortages and other factors, those areas, do to fresh water availability, will see a renaissance and a population movement from both coasts to area like those in the next 25-50 years.

I am quite sure the people who migrated because of the dust bowl never saw their move coming, until the situation left little options.

Essentially that fresh water availability will dictate where people live.

You don't know what you don't know. It would inherently make sense to move to those places if your in survival mode. However things like desalination would make it possible to stay without local fresh water. Israel gets 85% of their water from desalination. No reason California couldn't if they wanted to.

There is also the likelihood that in 50 years we will have a much lower population, given lower birth rates.

 

[GON]

You don't know what you don't know. It would inherently make sense to move to those places if your in survival mode. However things like desalination would make it possible to stay without local fresh water. Israel gets 85% of their water from desalination. No reason California couldn't if they wanted to.

There is also the likelihood that in 50 years we will have a much lower population, given lower birth rates.

When I was a freshman in high school, we had an awesome geography teacher. He had a great memory and recalled coaching me in wrestling when I was five years old. I didn't recall him, but it speaks volumes he recalled me.

In 1978, this teacher taught the class many things, but two distinctive things stick in my now struggling memory.

(1) Florida was going to collapse with the rerouting of water to make more of the state buildable livable, essentially that the rerouting of the water would introduce salt water into the fresh water-- thus creating a loss of available fresh water both on the surface, but more importantly underground.

(2) that the ice age was going to be returning to earth.

I can't comment on #2, as I don't recall the timeframe he was teaching. But I don't recall global warming as ever a topic.

For #1, Florida has seen massive developments and population increases every year for decades. Not hearing about Florida having freshwater problems on a MACRO level.

Yes, none of us know what the future brings. And it seems most every expert given enough time ends up wrong. Listening to part of the recent Elon Musk interview on Joe Rogan, Elon mentioned that the biggest risk to planet earth may an asteroid hit. Maybe an asteroid will hit next year, or three million years from today- but Elon believes an asteroid hit may equate to the end of the earth being habitable for humans.

 

[GON]

Yes, I am pretty sure I would rather live under a bridge here than anywhere in Gary Indiana or Detroit proper. The other 3 - Toledo, Davenport, or Shreveport I have been to, albeit a while ago, and I might consider it for the right amount of money.

The quad cities, less the winter weather, is a pretty desirable area. I read some years back that Scott County, IA (home of Davenport IIRC) has some of the nation's very best public schools across the entire county. Reportedly a great area to raise a family.

I am not a fan of Shreveport, primarily because of the pollution in the river, but I did have the most awesome gumbo in Shreveport, LA.

 

[SC Maintenance]

When I was a freshman in high school, we had an awesome geography teacher. He had a great memory and recalled coaching me in wrestling when I was five years old. I didn't recall him, but it speaks volumes he recalled me.

In 1978, this teacher taught the class many things, but two distinctive things stick in my now struggling memory.

(1) Florida was going to collapse with the rerouting of water to make more of the state buildable livable, essentially that the rerouting of the water would introduce salt water into the fresh water-- thus creating a loss of available fresh water both on the surface, but more importantly underground.

(2) that the ice age was going to be returning to earth.

I can't comment on #2, as I don't recall the timeframe he was teaching. But I don't recall global warming as ever a topic.

For #1, Florida has sign massive developments and population increases every year for decades. Not hearing about Florida having freshwater problems on a MACRO level.

Yes, none of us know what the future brings. And it seems most every expert given enough time ends up wrong. Listening to part of the recent Elon Musk interview on Joe Rogan, Elon mentioned that the biggest risk to planet earth may an asteroid hit. Maybe an asteroid will hit next year, or three million years from today- but Elon believes an asteroid hit may equate to the end of the earth being habitable for humans.

Well, I agree Florida is an ecological disaster, from red tide to sink holes to the destruction of spawning grounds for fish in the everglades. So he got that part right likely.

I do recall stories of 1970's predictions of the next ice age. I thought that was traced back to a few alarmists and some magazine articles - with no actual data. As for global warming or cooling, remember that only 9000 years ago half of North America was covered in an ice sheet a mile thick. 9000 years is nothing in geological time. Also remember just a couple years ago all the reservoirs out west were empty and one really good rainy season refilled most of them. So really, who can say on any of that.

Elon owns an EV car company and says carbon will kill us. Elon bought Twitter and suddenly free speech became his passion. Elon owns a space exploration company and now says an asteroid is imminent. Who would have thought.

If you have interest, look up 536 AD. Several documentaries on youtube. It was so cold in Northern Europe that the trees did not grow at all, crops failed, the sky was dark. The next year wasn't much better. There is much debate on what caused it but the running theories are a volcano or Asteroid filled the sky with dust and blocked the sun.

 

[Pew]

It's sounds funny, but some people much smarter than me have suggested due to water shortages and other factors, those areas, do to fresh water availability, will see a renaissance and a population movement from both coasts to area like those in the next 25-50 years.

I am quite sure the people who migrated because of the dust bowl never saw their move coming, until the situation left little options.

His theory is essentially that freshwater availability will dictate where people live.

All those cities have collapsed from the outsourcing of American industry in the late 1900s.

Memphis, Toledo, Gary, and Decatur, IL is so worn down that I'm for certain no amount of gentrification will save Gary and Decatur.

Edit: I was thinking of DeKalb. Decatur is small and not close enough to the Mississippi or lake Michigan.

 

[Donald]

And being California there are likely toxic debris testing and mitigation and disposal procedures not seen elsewhere.

In NYC you would just call Vitto Trucking, load up the toxic debris and be done with it. Toxic debris would be dumped in same landfill as where Jimmy Hoffa is buried.