Boy, oh boy...did I ever step out of line tonight.

[Gary Allan]

Well, if you take child rearing seriously, you raise a well behaved citizen. One that really never needs punishment.

The whack job liberal artists tell you what you can't do, while leaving you with no equally as apparent pathway to success. That's why it appears like your hands are tied.

They can't teach it in school, since school itself utilizes punitive measures in disciplinary actions. The rules that they're governed under make the rules that they're allegedly supposed to use inapplicable.

Under preferred guidelines everyone would be on detention and earn the reward of leaving on time daily(for example).

In this kids case ..how does XS650 say it, ...ohh.. "Management gets the behavior it rewards".

 

[Nick R]

I'm sorry dude, but parents who raise kids like that need a swift kick in the rear. I get this from my own parents, but I HATE going somewhere and kids are throwing tantrums, screaming etc, and THE PARENTS AREN'T DOING ANYTHING. There have been a few times where I've come this close to saying something, but luckily my mom was there and she'd just shake her head and I'd bite my tongue.

But it is so obnoxious to be at a nice restraunt with family, trying to enjoy ourselves and the food and this is going on. I hate it. I think parents are too easy on kids today. Too many parents are afraid to spank their kids because it's "abuse". That is bull. Parents will turn a blind eye because their kids will act out more at first. Well, no duh. But eventually they will learn. My parents are no-nonsense, take no crud from anyone type. I'm lucky to get along with my parents pretty well, my mom a bit better than my dad. But my parents are in charge, that is for sure.

I wish more parents were. If you don't want to take responsiblity for your children.... You shouldn't have them.

 

[JHZR2]

some folks get upset if anyone touches their kids. I can kind of understand that, then again, the kid was rude and you didnt harm him.

 

[getnpsi]

A 5 year old is big enough to get manners explained to him too. you can tell him with your sister what he did was wrong and to wait for his turn to talk, or at least not interrupt. if he wants to be in the middle of grownup conversation, the grownups were not acting like him, he needs to see example from the outside.

 

[HK_Ace]

No offence but it seems your sister isn't doing a good job teaching the kid respect. You did what I would have done. Chances are that uncorrected, that boy will be a bratty lil -- when older.

 

[J_Sap]

I applaude you for not just taking your nephews poor manners. He clearly reacted to what you did and stopped trying to talk over you. It is a good lesson for him tha he cannot do or act like a brat in front of other people. Sadly I bet he will still be like that at home with mommy and daddy. But when he is out with other people he will behave better, hopefully permanently.

One of my old neighbors had a child that would always be screaming at the top of her lungs when she did not get her way. It always stopped the second I started working on my car and they could hear me next door. Some kids think they can run over certain people but won't dare try or let other people know they are pulling that [censored].

 

[doitmyself]

Giving out "armchair quarterback" advice on parenting is pretty futile. Mrsilvr, I wish you luck on handling the situation without losing your relationship with your sister (maybe you don't mind). I agree with others here....its kind of like with pets. The problem often is with the "owner".

And, parenting never ends. I had to scold my daughter the other day for letting our grand daughter change a tire in her good school clothes. Stupid!

 

[greenaccord02]

A quick pop on the [censored] with a belt and I'll bet junior wouldn't say 'shut up' to anybody anymore.

But that's his father's place, not yours. What you did was just fine. You should be proud.

 

[daves66nova]

Man,if that was my kid doing that,I'd pull out my belt faster than Clint Eastwood pulling out his revolver!!!

 

[97tbird]

Sort of a different sub-topic: it also angers me (not really the word I wanted to use) when little kids answer phones in their homes - it's utterly useless, they are not old enough to understand that I want to talk to their parents, and it takes forever to get them on the freaking phone. I hate parents who let their kids (who are too young to be productive in answering a phone) answer phones. Once I made a remark about this and a "proud mom" (it's all she ever became in life -birthing machine) was offended (distant relative) - she thought it was "so cute", and made me look like a monster when I voiced my opinion. I don't think it's cute at all - it's a major p-i-t-a and it's annoying, esp. when the call is concerning an urgent matter.

I also hate parents who bring unruly, loud kids to movies.

 

[Falcon_LS]

I, too, beleive you did the right thing.

I haven't got kids of my own just yet, but I'm sure many will agree back in our days there were serious consequences when you went out of line - especially where respecting your elders are concerned. Nowadays, people seem to take it real easy with their kids, and whilst I'm not one who encourages punishing them physically, a good old fashioned smack on the backside can do wonders. Although I have witnessed a police officer telling a mother off for doing exactly that to her child, who was screaming her head off because she wanted ice cream. I suppose the world we're living in now is much different than that when we were kids.

 

[Vizzy]

Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
A quick pop on the [censored] with a belt and I'll bet junior wouldn't say 'shut up' to anybody anymore.

But that's his father's place, not yours. What you did was just fine. You should be proud.


Yep...Contrary to all the so called experts?? There is nothing wrong with corporal punishment when it is done out of concern, not out of anger...

In fact it needs to be brought back in a huge way!

Time outs rarely work for most parents....just have to laugh at that show Nanny 911 where you see her trying to reason with toddlers and up to 9 year olds, it doesn't actually work most of the time!!!!

The worst thing that ever happend to society with regards to raising children was Dr. Spock.. although most folks today don't remember him his weird and useless advice lives on.

 

[javacontour]

Not even mental illness is a valid excuse. If a parent knows their child has such an illness that prevents them from being polite in society, then instead of expecting society to simply put up with their ill-mannered child, they need to make sure that their child is not out causing problems.

How much of this so-called "mental illness" or "ADD" or whatever is simply a lack of parenting and a lack of parents taking responsibility? I really believe even the most "ADD" of children will eventually learn if the consequences become painful enough that it's too costly for them to continue their behavior.

So mental illness really is no excuse for rudeness. Even if the child was mentally ill, that's no excuse for the sister to try to tell the OP what his expectation for the child's behavior should be.

I really don't care if a child is mentally ill or not, telling an adult to shut up is unacceptable, period.

Originally Posted By: Barkleymut
The only thing everyone might be overlooking is the possibility that the child may have a mental illness. Usually parents will not say anything, even to close relatives about this. If this is the case then the parents have hopefully found that by ignoring this behavior it eventually goes away. If addressed it may get worse. Unfortunatly I know about this from experience and it is a very unpleasant place for the parents, not to mention the child.

Obviously, the probability is that your nephew is a spoiled brat and needs someone to jerk a knot in his tail. I am 37 and have zero recollection of any of my friends ever talking back to their parents. Growing up in a small town was nice because you knew everyone and they all knew your parents and you had better not step out of line. Now living in a large city it seems that kids feel they are entitled to express their worthless opinions as if they were valid.

Just my .02

 

[Summerwind]

Not even mental illness is a valid excuse. If a parent knows their child has such an illness that prevents them from being polite in society, then instead of expecting society to simply put up with their ill-mannered child, they need to make sure that their child is not out causing problems.

How much of this so-called "mental illness" or "ADD" or whatever is simply a lack of parenting and a lack of parents taking responsibility? I really believe even the most "ADD" of children will eventually learn if the consequences become painful enough that it's too costly for them to continue their behavior.

So mental illness really is no excuse for rudeness. Even if the child was mentally ill, that's no excuse for the sister to try to tell the OP what his expectation for the child's behavior should be.

I really don't care if a child is mentally ill or not, telling an adult to shut up is unacceptable, period.


X100!!!

 

[L_Sludger]

Nowadays parents go to jail for meting out a little capital punishment to their unruly kid. They smack the kid, kid goes to CPS, CPS goes after parents.

 

[crinkles]

Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
Nowadays parents go to jail for meting out a little capital punishment to their unruly kid. They smack the kid, kid goes to CPS, CPS goes after parents.


do you mean corporal punishment? capital punishment = death penalty.

 

[L_Sludger]

shhhhh, i'm having fun

 

[JTK]

I've got three young children; 4, 6 and 8. If any other adult other than my wife or I has to intervene on an issue, regardless of who they are, my kids are REALLY going to get it from my wife or I.

Joel

 

[Scienceman]

I think you done the right thing!

 

[Pablo]

It's time for a little chat with sis.

In a nutshell, at 5 it's almost already too late. Your sister should have learned the proper way to say "NO" to the child before the age of one.

Some new age goonie started some garbage about humans not respecting themselves if they are told NO as kids.....another anti-family bit tearing down what is right. It seems maybe your sister bought into this junk.