Took me 2 years to get the title for a motorcycle I bought with a lien. What a pain
I don't have to assume, it's a fact. https://fortunly.com/statistics/car-loan-statistics/#gref More than 85% of new cars are financed.You can't assume anything like that at all.
We probably have to start up a new thread, but I would think that the term should apply to cars that are at most 3-5 years old and maybe under 50k as a late model used car. Pretty much what a new car dealer would stock as a used car, not just cars that are private sellers or used car lots only.Depends on the definition of "late model". For some guys here that would be anything back to a 2010.
You cant demand a title from the state in a hurry. They take their time. The seller should have cleared the title and had it ready when he wanted to sell the vehicle.What? No. A title in hand protects both parties. Seller is going to have to do the legwork on this, he's competing with 100s of other sellers who are competent.
Seller should call up his bank, request a paper title at location X, then meet buyer there and everyone leaves that day with what they showed up for.
A notarized contract is no good if someone disappears.
I would not give the money to the seller without a clean title in my hand. If i pay him and leave without a title I have no leverage to get the title and no legal right to the car I paid for.Years ago I sold a car with a lien. We both had copies of both our ID's, signed sales agreement, the payoff, and copies of the cashiers check. He had the keys and the car and I had verified issuance of the cashiers check. Title came in about a week and I FedEx it to him the next day.
I agree.. first question i asked the seller was do you have a clear title.. he said yes.. but has a lien... but he was not correct.. his title was electronic and only available to the bank.. so he needed to pay off the loan and wait for a clear title.. and correct his address.. as he had moved.. so the truck was far from ready to buy.My point is more about "lost" titles, as in "I can't find the title", not so much about vehicles with leins. "I can't find the paperwork" was what happened with the sailboat my dad was given. A seller who can't be bothered to get a duplicate of a lost/mislaid title should be a red flag. Is that vehicle really his, free and clear?
It's disturbing how many people are so disorganized that they can't find important stuff such as vehicle titles. I know where all my important papers are. Too many don't. If you're one of them, think about what someone handling your affairs after you die would have to go through.
So you knew that state law changed in 2012 making it impossible for a seller to possess a title with a lien on it ??Next you'll tell us beware of vehicles with prior accidents.
So we're only talking about new cars here ? Bet no one presumed that and that this thread was applying to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th owner cars just as much as any others.More than 85% of new cars are financed.
This isn't actually correct. Yes it could be a problem with a cash sale and a verbal agreement but it's not a problem with a well documented transaction. One thing I did leave out was a that the seller also had a copy of my current insurance card (VIN match to the vehicle).I would not give the money to the seller without a clean title in my hand. If i pay him and leave without a title I have no leverage to get the title and no legal right to the car I paid for.
I don't live in Wisc. so I do not care about Wisc title laws.So you knew that state law changed in 2012 making it impossible for a seller to possess a title with a lien on it ??
First time i saw this in over 40 years of buying used cars..
I was trying to help people see a potential problem.. guess your here to catch a laugh.