Battle of the Cheap 5W-20

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Battle of the Cheap 5W-20 Oils 1. Exxon (Honda) $0.99 Autozone Visc 8.2 cSt @ 100ºC Base Oils - Group III (As of Jan. 2003) Boron - 130ppm Moly - 240ppm Invisible Organics - Unknown TBN 6.3 2. Motorcraft (Conoco) $1.42 WalMart Visc 9.0 cSt @ 100ºC Base Oils - Group II+ / Group III blend Boron - No Moly - Edit: New Formula has Moly (50ppm?) Invisible Organics - Claimed TBN 4.6 Which would you prefer? [ July 08, 2004, 09:56 PM: Message edited by: Gene K ]
 
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I prefer the Motorcraft based on personal results. The MC 5w20 is almost a 30 weight. Hmmmm.... And my batch had moly.
 
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I'd take the MC because: 1) almost a 30 wt as previously mentioned 2) lots of good UOA's to back it up 3)easy to pick up when I'm buying other stuff at wallyworld.
 
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MC with few cents more...works when crunch time when oil is needed..go with quality...It's a good oil...
 
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Don't not forget Havoline. I think the last time I purchased some at Wally World it was $1.17/qt.
 
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The exxon looks impressive on your post. G3 for .99? So, its a full synthetic then? One more oil to look into [Roll Eyes] I think I'll stick with MC for now though Its been working well. [Cool]
 

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Gene K, where do you get your info on the basestocks for the Exxon? I ask because I've called Mobil twice and asked what basestocks are in Mobil Drive Clean 5w-20, and both times I was told, "All group III". The spec sheet on the oil doesn't seem to bear the claim out.
 
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It seems to me that these guys that answer the phones don't really know all that much. I would be willing to bet that Exxon Superflo/Mobil Drive Clean/Honda 5W-20 is a group II+ motor oil. It could also be a blend of group II or II+ with a small amount of group III.
 

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MobilExxon told me all Group III on the 5W-20. I do not know if this is currently accurate or not. That is why I posted the date. As to synthetic, ExxonMobil does not consider group III as being synthetic. If it is all Group III guaranteed it is a petroleum feedstock Group III not a slack-wax feedstock Group III. Even then I have a hard time believing it at that price. The TBN figures are new method. I thought maybe the Exxon / Honda Oil might be better for longer drains since it is stands to reason it might be designed around Hondas 10,000 mi OCI where as the Conoco / Motorcraft might be designed around Fords 5,000 mi OCI. What UOA I can find on the Exxon / Honda Oil (Very Limited!) seem to be just as good as the Conoco / Motorcraft. Gene
 
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Dang - that Honda/Exxon 5w-20 does look good on paper. They sell a Honda-rebranded oil for only $0.99 at Autozone?? MR
 

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Originally posted by MikeR: They sell a Honda-rebranded oil for only $0.99 at Autozone?? MR
They sell the Exxon. It and the Honda-Branded oil at the Honda Dealer are identical. I add the Honda for the same reason I add Conoco to the Motorcraft so someone wont pay more for one than the other when they are the same oil. Mobil 5W-20 may also be the same as Exxon but that has not been confirmed. Normal price is $1.29 but Autozone has it on sale for $0.99 right now. I'm tying to figure out if its worth picking up a case while it is on sale. What UOA I have seen look very good but there just not enough of them. [Mad] Gene
 

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The Havoline and Chevron are very close to the same (There seems to be a slight difference in the basestock but identical add package). Havoline seems to shear a little less. It looks like a very good oil. If it is anything like there 10W-30 it is a one of the top Dino (or undercover blends?) on the market. There are some VOA and UOA in those sections. Gene
 
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Isn't the Ford spec. a little tougher/different than the Honda spec?? They are totally different engine animals. If it meets Ford spec. I might use the Exxon, but.... [I dont know] The specs. look good. [Big Grin]
 
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I've seen Mobil 5W-20 on sale for $0.99/quart at Farm and Fleet. With the two options you've listed, I'd go with the Exxon... because the price is cheaper.
 

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Originally posted by haley10: Isn't the Ford spec. a little tougher/different than the Honda spec.?
Yes, but the Exxon meets the Ford Spec and for that matter Motorcraft meets the Honda Spec. Gene
 
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Thanks GeneK. 5W-20 is a big leap of faith for me in a big V-8 truck anyway, but might try it this Winter.
 
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