I changed the oil in my vehicles, they were due. I have had to travel to a different metro this week and will drive back to the house soon. The good news is I am getting gas for 1.19 a gallon, that's also some bad news.
Are you all changing oil on cars not driven?
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Originally Posted by Bryanccfshr
I changed the oil in my vehicles, they were due. I have had to travel to a different metro this week and will drive back to the house soon. The good news is I am getting gas for 1.19 a gallon, that's also some bad news.
I've been noticing that in the past 6-8 weeks, I'm offsetting cheap gas prices by switching to 93 octane. So instead of paying 1.39 for 87 octane, I'm paying 2.09 for 93 octane Shell
When prices go back up, I'll switch back to 87. One thing I never buy is mid-grade 89 octane. Too many crooked, dishonest gas station owners around that can electronically mess with the octane number blending inside the store. They can give us 87 octane and we pay 30-35 cents more for it.
I changed the oil in my vehicles, they were due. I have had to travel to a different metro this week and will drive back to the house soon. The good news is I am getting gas for 1.19 a gallon, that's also some bad news.
I've been noticing that in the past 6-8 weeks, I'm offsetting cheap gas prices by switching to 93 octane. So instead of paying 1.39 for 87 octane, I'm paying 2.09 for 93 octane Shell
When prices go back up, I'll switch back to 87. One thing I never buy is mid-grade 89 octane. Too many crooked, dishonest gas station owners around that can electronically mess with the octane number blending inside the store. They can give us 87 octane and we pay 30-35 cents more for it.
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Too many crooked, dishonest gas station owners around that can electronically mess with the octane number blending inside the store. They can give us 87 octane and we pay 30-35 cents more for it.
Glad I don't live where you do!
Too many crooked, dishonest gas station owners around that can electronically mess with the octane number blending inside the store. They can give us 87 octane and we pay 30-35 cents more for it.
Glad I don't live where you do!
Originally Posted by ka9mnx
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Too many crooked, dishonest gas station owners around that can electronically mess with the octane number blending inside the store. They can give us 87 octane and we pay 30-35 cents more for it.
Glad I don't live where you do!
Just more keyboard diarrhea from this poster about an imagined problem or issue for which there is no evidence it is occurring or has occurred to him.
Triple_Se7en, if you're so worried about the blending being off, how do you know the 87 and 93 octane fuels are as placarded?
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Too many crooked, dishonest gas station owners around that can electronically mess with the octane number blending inside the store. They can give us 87 octane and we pay 30-35 cents more for it.
Glad I don't live where you do!
Just more keyboard diarrhea from this poster about an imagined problem or issue for which there is no evidence it is occurring or has occurred to him.
Triple_Se7en, if you're so worried about the blending being off, how do you know the 87 and 93 octane fuels are as placarded?
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Originally Posted by ka9mnx
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Too many crooked, dishonest gas station owners around that can electronically mess with the octane number blending inside the store. They can give us 87 octane and we pay 30-35 cents more for it.
Glad I don't live where you do!
You must live in a Monastery, Rectory or Convent. Wait ... never-mind! Even some of those have been fingerprinted and charged.
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Too many crooked, dishonest gas station owners around that can electronically mess with the octane number blending inside the store. They can give us 87 octane and we pay 30-35 cents more for it.
Glad I don't live where you do!
You must live in a Monastery, Rectory or Convent. Wait ... never-mind! Even some of those have been fingerprinted and charged.
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Too many crooked, dishonest gas station owners around that can electronically mess with the octane number blending inside the store. They can give us 87 octane and we pay 30-35 cents more for it.
How exactly does that work? Far as I know there is a separate underground tank for each octane gas. You would have to tear up the pavement and splice pipes around to do that. Much easier to just put 87 into the 93 tank but you would have to payoff the tanker driver.
Too many crooked, dishonest gas station owners around that can electronically mess with the octane number blending inside the store. They can give us 87 octane and we pay 30-35 cents more for it.
How exactly does that work? Far as I know there is a separate underground tank for each octane gas. You would have to tear up the pavement and splice pipes around to do that. Much easier to just put 87 into the 93 tank but you would have to payoff the tanker driver.
Originally Posted by atikovi
How exactly does that work? Far as I know there is a separate underground tank for each octane gas. You would have to tear up the pavement and splice pipes around to do that. Much easier to just put 87 into the 93 tank but you would have to payoff the tanker driver.
Many (most?) pumps are blending pumps and there is not a separate mid-grade tank.
How exactly does that work? Far as I know there is a separate underground tank for each octane gas. You would have to tear up the pavement and splice pipes around to do that. Much easier to just put 87 into the 93 tank but you would have to payoff the tanker driver.
Many (most?) pumps are blending pumps and there is not a separate mid-grade tank.
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Decent brands have QAQC guys pull random samples at the pump
Even synthetics degrade over time due to oxidation, moisture, etc. the additives may slow degradation down but it still occurs. If you aren't hitting the mileage mark but coming up on the recommended time you should still change the oil. Combustion contaminants, moisture...
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Originally Posted by atikovi
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Too many crooked, dishonest gas station owners around that can electronically mess with the octane number blending inside the store. They can give us 87 octane and we pay 30-35 cents more for it.
How exactly does that work? Far as I know there is a separate underground tank for each octane gas. You would have to tear up the pavement and splice pipes around to do that. Much easier to just put 87 into the 93 tank but you would have to payoff the tanker driver.
Mainly two underground tanks for gas. One for premium and one for regular. They are controlled electronically inside the business.
Also, most-all gas stations in this area are managed & owned by folks born in the Middle East. We have either the largest community, or the 2nd largest community in the USA.
They also own most-all of the party stores and I was in the beer business for 35 years. So I knew many of them by name and patronized with them plenty.
I know how they run their businesses and things they often do are not always honest. They will flat-out say that their business is unlike their religion and the two never intersect.
They are fantastic people in conversations outside of their business. I miss them dearly since retiring. I saw more of them than my brothers and sisters..... many twice a week.
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Too many crooked, dishonest gas station owners around that can electronically mess with the octane number blending inside the store. They can give us 87 octane and we pay 30-35 cents more for it.
How exactly does that work? Far as I know there is a separate underground tank for each octane gas. You would have to tear up the pavement and splice pipes around to do that. Much easier to just put 87 into the 93 tank but you would have to payoff the tanker driver.
Mainly two underground tanks for gas. One for premium and one for regular. They are controlled electronically inside the business.
Also, most-all gas stations in this area are managed & owned by folks born in the Middle East. We have either the largest community, or the 2nd largest community in the USA.
They also own most-all of the party stores and I was in the beer business for 35 years. So I knew many of them by name and patronized with them plenty.
I know how they run their businesses and things they often do are not always honest. They will flat-out say that their business is unlike their religion and the two never intersect.
They are fantastic people in conversations outside of their business. I miss them dearly since retiring. I saw more of them than my brothers and sisters..... many twice a week.
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Originally Posted by forkian
. Don't have a maintainer, so I guess I will start it in the driveway and idle some every week?
Not sure a little bit of idling now and then will keep the battery charged like it should be but I"m no expert on batteries, save money on the gas and get a nice maintainer that will last a few years.
https://smile.amazon.com/CTEK-56-959-CHARGE-Automatic-Charger/dp/B00GODGN9E/ref=sr_1_4
I have the 4.3 with out the test & charge but if it ever stops working this is the one I will replace it with.
. Don't have a maintainer, so I guess I will start it in the driveway and idle some every week?
Not sure a little bit of idling now and then will keep the battery charged like it should be but I"m no expert on batteries, save money on the gas and get a nice maintainer that will last a few years.
https://smile.amazon.com/CTEK-56-959-CHARGE-Automatic-Charger/dp/B00GODGN9E/ref=sr_1_4
I have the 4.3 with out the test & charge but if it ever stops working this is the one I will replace it with.
Originally Posted by Ven70
Even synthetics degrade over time due to oxidation, moisture, etc. the additives may slow degradation down but it still occurs. If you aren't hitting the mileage mark but coming up on the recommended time you should still change the oil. Combustion contaminants, moisture...
No it doesn't. That's been discussed here at length, without the ongoing inflow of the products of combustion further degradation does not occur.
Even synthetics degrade over time due to oxidation, moisture, etc. the additives may slow degradation down but it still occurs. If you aren't hitting the mileage mark but coming up on the recommended time you should still change the oil. Combustion contaminants, moisture...
No it doesn't. That's been discussed here at length, without the ongoing inflow of the products of combustion further degradation does not occur.
Originally Posted by GZRider
I'm gonna change mine in the next month, I short trip it at least 50-60% and the Nissan VQ37 is hard on oil. I know a 5k OCI on Mobil1 EP is "conservative" but rather be safe then sorry. Actually just ordered the Advance Auto deal on Mobil1 EP HM and the Mobil1 filter for $36.99 the other day. Think Mobil is still running a $12 gift card back too.
Same with me. I have 2 other cars that i drive occasionally and i always change the oil every 6 months. I'm actually changing the oil on one of them this weekend. Going with mobil 1 EP 5w30 again. IIRC, i only have about 2450 or so miles on that oil interval. Still changing it.
I'm gonna change mine in the next month, I short trip it at least 50-60% and the Nissan VQ37 is hard on oil. I know a 5k OCI on Mobil1 EP is "conservative" but rather be safe then sorry. Actually just ordered the Advance Auto deal on Mobil1 EP HM and the Mobil1 filter for $36.99 the other day. Think Mobil is still running a $12 gift card back too.
Same with me. I have 2 other cars that i drive occasionally and i always change the oil every 6 months. I'm actually changing the oil on one of them this weekend. Going with mobil 1 EP 5w30 again. IIRC, i only have about 2450 or so miles on that oil interval. Still changing it.
This is an absolutely ridiculous post that disparages a class of people for no reason whatsoever. You have no evidence it is occurring at all. None.
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Mainly two underground tanks for gas. One for premium and one for regular. They are controlled electronically inside the business.
Also, most-all gas stations in this area are managed & owned by folks born in the Middle East. We have either the largest community, or the 2nd largest community in the USA.
They also own most-all of the party stores and I was in the beer business for 35 years. So I knew many of them by name and patronized with them plenty.
I know how they run their businesses and things they often do are not always honest. They will flat-out say that their business is unlike their religion and the two never intersect.
They are fantastic people in conversations outside of their business. I miss them dearly since retiring. I saw more of them than my brothers and sisters..... many twice a week.
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Mainly two underground tanks for gas. One for premium and one for regular. They are controlled electronically inside the business.
Also, most-all gas stations in this area are managed & owned by folks born in the Middle East. We have either the largest community, or the 2nd largest community in the USA.
They also own most-all of the party stores and I was in the beer business for 35 years. So I knew many of them by name and patronized with them plenty.
I know how they run their businesses and things they often do are not always honest. They will flat-out say that their business is unlike their religion and the two never intersect.
They are fantastic people in conversations outside of their business. I miss them dearly since retiring. I saw more of them than my brothers and sisters..... many twice a week.
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by atikovi
How exactly does that work? Far as I know there is a separate underground tank for each octane gas. You would have to tear up the pavement and splice pipes around to do that. Much easier to just put 87 into the 93 tank but you would have to payoff the tanker driver.
Many (most?) pumps are blending pumps and there is not a separate mid-grade tank.
Learned something new! Did know in some/most cases there are only 2 tanks.
So unlike oil viscosity, does the math work with the octane?
e.g. If do a %50/50 of 87/93 do you get 90?
You know like if you mix 5W20 and 10W30 you won't get 7.5W25 or do you?
long story
Also out of curiosity aren't the valves and the flow controlled, calibrated or inspected by authorities or the state? I assume there is no way a cashier can play with the controls. No?
Originally Posted by atikovi
How exactly does that work? Far as I know there is a separate underground tank for each octane gas. You would have to tear up the pavement and splice pipes around to do that. Much easier to just put 87 into the 93 tank but you would have to payoff the tanker driver.
Many (most?) pumps are blending pumps and there is not a separate mid-grade tank.
Learned something new! Did know in some/most cases there are only 2 tanks.
So unlike oil viscosity, does the math work with the octane?
e.g. If do a %50/50 of 87/93 do you get 90?
You know like if you mix 5W20 and 10W30 you won't get 7.5W25 or do you?
Also out of curiosity aren't the valves and the flow controlled, calibrated or inspected by authorities or the state? I assume there is no way a cashier can play with the controls. No?
Yes, tried Maxlife 10W-40 in my Escort, well happy with it, noticeably quieter than before.
Which makes sense as a i saw a VOA where it showed a good amount of Moly, Phosphorous and Zinc.
Which makes sense as a i saw a VOA where it showed a good amount of Moly, Phosphorous and Zinc.
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Originally Posted by Leo99
Originally Posted by gathermewool
Originally Posted by Leo99
Haven't driven my car in over two weeks. I'll keep to my 10,000 mile OCI.
Driving habits? What oil are you using?
Your 10k is not my 10k is not someone else's 10k.
My usual driving is about 40 miles of doing 80 and then 15 miles of stop and go. Right now I'm not driving at all.
Think I have Valvoline ful syn 0w20 in there now.
Seems like perfect conditions for a 10k run, if not longer!
Now that we've moved closer to everything, my commute is only 11 miles, with around 6.5 of those miles at 60 MPH on the highway. My wife's usual driving pattern is even worse.
Originally Posted by gathermewool
Originally Posted by Leo99
Haven't driven my car in over two weeks. I'll keep to my 10,000 mile OCI.
Driving habits? What oil are you using?
Your 10k is not my 10k is not someone else's 10k.
My usual driving is about 40 miles of doing 80 and then 15 miles of stop and go. Right now I'm not driving at all.
Think I have Valvoline ful syn 0w20 in there now.
Seems like perfect conditions for a 10k run, if not longer!
Now that we've moved closer to everything, my commute is only 11 miles, with around 6.5 of those miles at 60 MPH on the highway. My wife's usual driving pattern is even worse.
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