Are all 0w30 Group IV?

[Ken4]

Picked up some SPC 0w30 (Singapore Petroluem Company). Made in Singapore oil. What are the chances of this being Group IV?

Front of bottle

Back of bottle

Specs

 

[Dick in Falls Church]

Don't know about the group, but can sure see why sub-zero pouring would be a major feature in Singapore.

 

[Ken2]

Hard to read the price...S$30 per 4 litre bottle?

Is SPC considered a top quality company? Equal or better than Caltex, BP/Castrol, etc.?

Wasn't U.S. Castrol 0W-30 made from Group III base oil?


Ken

[ January 15, 2004, 11:24 PM: Message edited by: Ken2 ]

 

[Ken4]

List price S$90 per bottle. After discount $63.

 

[TooSlick]

This PAO/GP III stuff is not an "either or" proposition ...

Many synlubes use 20%-30% PAO and 70%-80% GP III, along with some ester in order to achieve the required high/low temp performance at the lowest price per quart to formulate. Some of the Castrol synthetics use this approach, particularly something like their 5w-50 grade.

Any 0w-30 or 0w-40 will tend to have at least 30% PAO in order to get the required low temp properties. So a typical oil might be 30% PAO/55% GP III/15% PE ....

Ted

 

[Dr. T]

Here in Canada we have 0-30 "blends" at Can. Tire...would this be a Group II/III mix?

 

[Dr. T]

Ken, does that say "A1" on the back of the bottle?

 

[heyjay]

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Originally posted by Dr. T:
Here in Canada we have 0-30 "blends" at Can. Tire...would this be a Group II/III mix?

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With Canadian Tire you never know, do you? I had heard they were getting Esso to rebrand the EssoLube XD-3 0W-30, which is a HD diesel oil. Esso claims to use a PAO mix.

If that's the case, should be good oil. I used to use Esso XD-3 Extra 15W-40 summer and XD-3 Extra 0W-30 Artic winter before I switched to Delvac 1.

 

[Ken4]

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Originally posted by Dr. T:
Ken, does that say "A1" on the back of the bottle?

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Yes it is A1. Vis@100C of 9.9 cSt. Im quite disappointed with Castrol SLX A3, it's giving me poor fuel economy, so Im going to switch to this SPC at my next oil change.

 

[Motorbike]

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Originally posted by Dr. T:
Here in Canada we have 0-30 "blends" at Can. Tire...would this be a Group II/III mix?

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Have you seen the Pennzoil Long Life HD 0w-30 Synthetic Blend " PAO " in 4 liter packaging where you live ?

It's a SL-CH-4 rated diesel with good data that would be neat to try .

http://www.pzlqs.com/Tech/Pdsheet/I...nzoil/English/EngineOils/pdf/LongLife0W30.pdf

[ January 18, 2004, 08:33 AM: Message edited by: Motorbike ]

 

[Ken4]

Just received the missing specs from SPC. Can anyone guess how much Group IV is in it now?

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Dear Kenneth,

Thank you very much for buying SPC Syn Ace Max SAE 0W30.

Regarding your inquiries, please find below are the replies:

Pour Point: -42 deg C, typical.

Flash Point: 220 deg C,typical.

HTHS: 2.9 cP at 150 deg C.

Please feel free to call or write to me should you have any further inquiries.

Wish you A HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS LUNAR NEW YEAR.

Best regards,
Khoo Sze Wee
Singapore Petroleum Company
DID: 66621166
Email: [email protected]

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[Oldswagon]

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Originally posted by Motorbike:
Have you seen the Pennzoil Long Life HD 0w-30 Synthetic Blend " PAO " in 4 liter packaging where you live ?

It's a SL-CH-4 rated diesel with good data that would be neat to try .

http://www.pzlqs.com/Tech/Pdsheet/I...nzoil/English/EngineOils/pdf/LongLife0W30.pdf

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I am currently using this oil in one of my vehicles and I am very happy with it so far. From the MSDS it appears to have 45-55% PAO and 25-35% group II+ making up the blend. It also has a HTHS of 3.45 and a viscosty of 11.8 cSt at 100 C.

The only negative about this oil is that it can be hard to come by. Luckily, I have a Pennzoil dealer nearby that stocks the oil. I haven't seen it on anyone else's shelves yet. At the price of other lesser blend oils, I think this oil offers great bang for the buck.