ACDelco CVT Fluid #19260800 = Nissan NS-2?

[The Critic]

I am working on a 2014 Chevy Spark that is equipped with the Jatco CVT7 transmission. GM Service Information recommends using a "green fluid," which is ACDelco #19260800. The used fluid in the car looks and smells like Nissan NS-2.

From my research, I believe the Jatco CVT7 is also identified as the "RE0F11A" and the "Jatco JF015E" transmission. Nissan used this transmission in the 2013-16 Sentra and the 2012-13 Versa. Depending on the model year, Nissan specified either NS-2 (green) or NS-3 (lower viscosity and blue color). I do recognize that fluid recommendations are dependent upon programming, materials and application.

Based on the information I found, my best guess is that ACDelco 19260800 is rebottled Nissan NS-2. I don't think GM had a custom made fluid for this application, but I could be wrong.

Thoughts?

 

[JeffKeryk]

Based on the year alignment and transmission manufacturer, it seems to make sense. They can't make that many different fluid blends, can they?
I have used the Valvoline fluid in a 90K 2015 Altima (Hertz car sales) with great results.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

It probably is, but Valvoline and Castrol will also work good too and cost much less

 

[KGMtech]

Based on my research prior to doing the CVT service on my 13 Maxima, I found a msds for NS-2, it is made by Pennzoil. The Pennzoil CVT-2 I got from my local Pennzoil distributor is green just like the oem fluid, all same properties. In other countries, it would be made by other licensed oil formulators.

 

[JTK]

For a customer's vehicle that's still under manufacturer's warranty, I'd use the GM juice regardless.

If the vehicle was mine? I'd absolutely use an NS-2 or "suitable" green juice if still under warranty.

Out of warranty I'd use a readily available "suitable for use" fluid, any color.

 

[MolaKule]

Originally Posted by The Critic
I am working on a 2014 Chevy Spark that is equipped with the Jatco CVT7 transmission. GM Service Information recommends using a "green fluid," which is ACDelco #19260800. The used fluid in the car looks and smells like Nissan NS-2.

From my research, I believe the Jatco CVT7 is also identified as the "RE0F11A" and the "Jatco JF015E" transmission. Nissan used this transmission in the 2013-16 Sentra and the 2012-13 Versa. Depending on the model year, Nissan specified either NS-2 (green) or NS-3 (lower viscosity and blue color). I do recognize that fluid recommendations are dependent upon programming, materials and application.

Based on the information I found, my best guess is that ACDelco 19260800 is rebottled Nissan NS-2. I don't think GM had a custom made fluid for this application, but I could be wrong.

Thoughts?



I think NS-1 through NS-3 fluids are all ~ 8 cSt fluids. From my observations, the dye shows a bluish-greenish color depending on blender.

I use a blue-green dye (blue dominating) for Nissan NS-3 CVT formulations and an amber dye for all others.

 

[thrace]

From a quick search
Two identical vehicles
2018 Nissan NV200 uses NS-3.
2015 and 2018 Chevy City Express uses Delco 19260800 or in Canada 19299096
So 19260800 should be NS-3

From Nissan forums
"Referring to the Nissan Altima, NS2 is used in the 2007 - 2012 series, NS3 is used in the 2013 and newer series because the CVT was redesigned"
"the 4 gen uses the NS-2. the new cvt is designed for less friction and uses the new NS-3 which is designed for that purpose. im not sure id risk trying it. its not like putting DOT 4 brake fluid in a Dot 3 brake system."

Also NS2 NS3 comment https://www.drive2.com/l/5494677/

 

[The Critic]

Originally Posted by thrace
From a quick search
Two identical vehicles
2018 Nissan NV200 uses NS-3.
2015 and 2018 Chevy City Express uses Delco 19260800 or in Canada 19299096
So 19260800 should be NS-3

From Nissan forums
"Referring to the Nissan Altima, NS2 is used in the 2007 - 2012 series, NS3 is used in the 2013 and newer series because the CVT was redesigned"
"the 4 gen uses the NS-2. the new cvt is designed for less friction and uses the new NS-3 which is designed for that purpose. im not sure id risk trying it. its not like putting DOT 4 brake fluid in a Dot 3 brake system."

Also NS2 NS3 comment https://www.drive2.com/l/5494677/


You raise some good points. However, the 12-13 Versa uses the same transmission and it specs NS-2. So, I wonder if the reason for the fluid change is programming driven? GM literature does say that their fluid is "green," so I am inclined to believe that it is NS-2.

 

[The Critic]

Also, this is what the fluid looked like.

 

[JTK]

Fluid doesn't look bad on the paper towel test!

I know the NS-3 out of my Quest at 32K miles looked about like that on a white cloth, but in a glass jar, it looked black. Couldn't see light through it, where the new fluid is blue and you can (mostly) see through it like w/s washer fluid.

 

[unclefiat]

Aisin ATF-NS2 (Green)
Chevy Spark 2014-2017 CVT Equipped

Chrysler P# 08886-81015
GM P# 19260800
ACDelco P# 10-4092
Nissan Infiniti P# 999MP-NS200P

 

[dfarr67]

I bought a Honda Accord back in '15. And as I recall Nissan was having some serious issues with their CVT. I'm not recommending anything....but personally I would go oem fluid in a dodgy trans unles there was a clear winner. A more robust trans- I wouldn't worry. BTW I went stick and it has it's own cold weather oil issues.