AC PF48 replacement that is larger
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in the same quest as you. That filter just seems tiny for the size of the engine that it protects.
Yeah I guess the GM engineers didn't know what they were doing especially with the thousands upon thousands of testing miles at the GM proving grounds....
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Originally Posted By: endeavor to persevere
Yeah I guess the GM engineers didn't know what they were doing especially with the thousands up thousands of testing miles at the GM proving grounds....
The GM engineers must have finally realized that this filter is the optimum size for gasoline engines, as the Kohler engineers already new for the 26hp engine on my garden tractor.
Yeah I guess the GM engineers didn't know what they were doing especially with the thousands up thousands of testing miles at the GM proving grounds....
The GM engineers must have finally realized that this filter is the optimum size for gasoline engines, as the Kohler engineers already new for the 26hp engine on my garden tractor.
Same 22x1.5 threads as the PH2/FL820 used on a lot of Fords.
I use PF48 & Wix 57060 on my Jeep Patriot 2.4L engine which has a 4.5L sump, and I'm quite happy with them.
With Wix anyways, the 57060 has a better Beta then the larger 51372, so you might be getting a bigger filter, but it may have lower efficiency. Bigger isn't always better.
I use PF48 & Wix 57060 on my Jeep Patriot 2.4L engine which has a 4.5L sump, and I'm quite happy with them.
With Wix anyways, the 57060 has a better Beta then the larger 51372, so you might be getting a bigger filter, but it may have lower efficiency. Bigger isn't always better.
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I believe you GM guys run into diameter restrictions due to the filter being oriented too close to the block. There are plenty of bigger filters, just few in the 3" diameter persuasion.
Item Number Item Description Attribute Description Attribute Value
P502048
LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 3.18" (81 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.54" (90 mm)
Gasket OD 2.52" (64 mm)
Gasket ID 2.27" (58 mm)
Efficiency 92.00 Percent
Efficiency 50% 20 Micron
Primary Application HONDA 15400-PA6-305
Product Group F
P502072
LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 5.47" (139 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.64" (92 mm)
Gasket OD 2.83" (72 mm)
Gasket ID 2.48" (63 mm)
Efficiency 50% 20 Micron
Primary Application MOTORCRAFT
Product Group F
P550166
LUBE SPIN-ON
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 5.42" (138 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.67" (93 mm)
Gasket OD 2.83" (72 mm)
Gasket ID 2.46" (62 mm)
Relief Valve Setting 17-22 PSI (1.20-1.50 BAR)
Efficiency 99% 45 Micron
Primary Application ONAN 122-0550
Product Group F
P550357
LUBE SPIN ELMNT
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 3.78" (96 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.78" (96 mm)
Gasket OD 3.54" (90 mm)
Gasket ID 3.03" (77 mm)
Relief Valve Setting 10-15 PSI (0.70-1.00 BAR)
Anti Drain Valve Yes
Primary Application FORD 844F6716AA
Product Group F
P550389
LUBE FILTER SPIN-ON
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 3.94" (100 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.15" (80 mm)
Gasket OD 2.48" (63 mm)
Gasket ID 1.99" (51 mm)
Relief Valve Setting 8-11 PSI (0.60-0.80 BAR)
Anti Drain Valve Yes
Efficiency 50% 25 Micron
Primary Application ISUZU 8941145840
Product Group F
P550600
LUBE SPIN-ON
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 3.17" (81 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.15" (80 mm)
Gasket OD 2.94" (75 mm)
Gasket ID 2.43" (62 mm)
Primary Application HONDA 15400PL2004, 005, 305
Product Group F
P550794
LUBE SPIN ON
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 3.26" (83 mm)
Outer Diameter 3" (76 mm)
Relief Valve Setting 20 PSI (1.4 BAR)
Anti Drain Valve Y
Primary Application GM 2007 LIGHT TRUCK
Product Group F
P550965
SPIN ON LUBE
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 3.58" (91 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.67" (93 mm)
Gasket OD 2.81" (71 mm)
Gasket ID 2.42" (61 mm)
Relief Valve Setting 15 PSI (1.03 BAR)
Anti Drain Valve Yes
Efficiency 50% 20 Micron
Primary Application FORD LIGHT TRUCK
Product Group F
P553315
ELEMENT, LUBE SPIN-ON
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 5.51" (140 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.82" (97 mm)
Gasket OD 2.82" (72 mm)
Gasket ID 2.45" (62 mm)
Primary Application FORD 785F-6714-AA3A
Product Group F
Item Number Item Description Attribute Description Attribute Value
P502048
LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 3.18" (81 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.54" (90 mm)
Gasket OD 2.52" (64 mm)
Gasket ID 2.27" (58 mm)
Efficiency 92.00 Percent
Efficiency 50% 20 Micron
Primary Application HONDA 15400-PA6-305
Product Group F
P502072
LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 5.47" (139 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.64" (92 mm)
Gasket OD 2.83" (72 mm)
Gasket ID 2.48" (63 mm)
Efficiency 50% 20 Micron
Primary Application MOTORCRAFT
Product Group F
P550166
LUBE SPIN-ON
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 5.42" (138 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.67" (93 mm)
Gasket OD 2.83" (72 mm)
Gasket ID 2.46" (62 mm)
Relief Valve Setting 17-22 PSI (1.20-1.50 BAR)
Efficiency 99% 45 Micron
Primary Application ONAN 122-0550
Product Group F
P550357
LUBE SPIN ELMNT
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 3.78" (96 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.78" (96 mm)
Gasket OD 3.54" (90 mm)
Gasket ID 3.03" (77 mm)
Relief Valve Setting 10-15 PSI (0.70-1.00 BAR)
Anti Drain Valve Yes
Primary Application FORD 844F6716AA
Product Group F
P550389
LUBE FILTER SPIN-ON
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 3.94" (100 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.15" (80 mm)
Gasket OD 2.48" (63 mm)
Gasket ID 1.99" (51 mm)
Relief Valve Setting 8-11 PSI (0.60-0.80 BAR)
Anti Drain Valve Yes
Efficiency 50% 25 Micron
Primary Application ISUZU 8941145840
Product Group F
P550600
LUBE SPIN-ON
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 3.17" (81 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.15" (80 mm)
Gasket OD 2.94" (75 mm)
Gasket ID 2.43" (62 mm)
Primary Application HONDA 15400PL2004, 005, 305
Product Group F
P550794
LUBE SPIN ON
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 3.26" (83 mm)
Outer Diameter 3" (76 mm)
Relief Valve Setting 20 PSI (1.4 BAR)
Anti Drain Valve Y
Primary Application GM 2007 LIGHT TRUCK
Product Group F
P550965
SPIN ON LUBE
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 3.58" (91 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.67" (93 mm)
Gasket OD 2.81" (71 mm)
Gasket ID 2.42" (61 mm)
Relief Valve Setting 15 PSI (1.03 BAR)
Anti Drain Valve Yes
Efficiency 50% 20 Micron
Primary Application FORD LIGHT TRUCK
Product Group F
P553315
ELEMENT, LUBE SPIN-ON
Thread Size M22 x 1.5
Length 5.51" (140 mm)
Outer Diameter 3.82" (97 mm)
Gasket OD 2.82" (72 mm)
Gasket ID 2.45" (62 mm)
Primary Application FORD 785F-6714-AA3A
Product Group F
This question has been asked a billion times. There is even a active thread on it now.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1904969#Post1904969
It is the PF61 btw.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1904969#Post1904969
It is the PF61 btw.
PF61 and PF48 have different threads...
I have used the 61 on multiple 5.3s and 4.8s.
two on my personal vehicles my 05 and my parents silverado.
two on my personal vehicles my 05 and my parents silverado.
Originally Posted By: defektes
I have used the 61 on multiple 5.3s and 4.8s.
two on my personal vehicles my 05 and my parents silverado.
BUT GM changed the thread design for those engines in 07. The older filter PF46/PF61 used a SAE thread whereas the PF48 uses metric.
I have used the 61 on multiple 5.3s and 4.8s.
two on my personal vehicles my 05 and my parents silverado.
BUT GM changed the thread design for those engines in 07. The older filter PF46/PF61 used a SAE thread whereas the PF48 uses metric.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: defektes
I have used the 61 on multiple 5.3s and 4.8s.
two on my personal vehicles my 05 and my parents silverado.
BUT GM changed the thread design for those engines in 07. The older filter PF46/PF61 used a SAE thread whereas the PF48 uses metric.
Ah, my apologies then.
Originally Posted By: defektes
I have used the 61 on multiple 5.3s and 4.8s.
two on my personal vehicles my 05 and my parents silverado.
BUT GM changed the thread design for those engines in 07. The older filter PF46/PF61 used a SAE thread whereas the PF48 uses metric.
Ah, my apologies then.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: defektes
I have used the 61 on multiple 5.3s and 4.8s.
two on my personal vehicles my 05 and my parents silverado.
BUT GM changed the thread design for those engines in 07. The older filter PF46/PF61 used a SAE thread whereas the PF48 uses metric.
Not the engine, just that platform.
The vans still use the SAE thread even with the same engine in 07
Originally Posted By: defektes
I have used the 61 on multiple 5.3s and 4.8s.
two on my personal vehicles my 05 and my parents silverado.
BUT GM changed the thread design for those engines in 07. The older filter PF46/PF61 used a SAE thread whereas the PF48 uses metric.
Not the engine, just that platform.
The vans still use the SAE thread even with the same engine in 07
I wonder why they did change it only on the pickups.
WHY DOES GM CALL FOR A PF46 WHEN A PF61 CAN FIT?
As long as you have the clearance feel free to use the larger filter. I was in this industry many years ago back when the PF25/PF35/PF1218 were being phased out of production engines in favor of the PF47/PF52 series. Its a dirty little secret to save on production costs. Less metal, less media, AND LESS OIL times millions of cars rolling off the line!!!
As long as you have the clearance feel free to use the larger filter. I was in this industry many years ago back when the PF25/PF35/PF1218 were being phased out of production engines in favor of the PF47/PF52 series. Its a dirty little secret to save on production costs. Less metal, less media, AND LESS OIL times millions of cars rolling off the line!!!
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: defektes
I have used the 61 on multiple 5.3s and 4.8s.
two on my personal vehicles my 05 and my parents silverado.
BUT GM changed the thread design for those engines in 07. The older filter PF46/PF61 used a SAE thread whereas the PF48 uses metric.
Not the engine, just that platform.
The vans still use the SAE thread even with the same engine in 07
Ok? Not when you look the filter up. Same PF48 as the trucks.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: defektes
I have used the 61 on multiple 5.3s and 4.8s.
two on my personal vehicles my 05 and my parents silverado.
BUT GM changed the thread design for those engines in 07. The older filter PF46/PF61 used a SAE thread whereas the PF48 uses metric.
Not the engine, just that platform.
The vans still use the SAE thread even with the same engine in 07
Ok? Not when you look the filter up. Same PF48 as the trucks.
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Yep. Just look up 57060 on Wix's site and hit "all applications". There's nothing else to fit with a spin-on. Cars ..trucks ...vans.. 07 through 10
Apparently Saturn still used the 13/16 thread through 09.
Apparently Saturn still used the 13/16 thread through 09.
GM would not make a change in filter threads on some engines and not others in that family of engines.. Think what that would do to the people on the assembly line. After being in manufacturing for 45 years, I can say it will not happen.
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