A list of SN Add Packs and Amounts for Oils

[volk06]

People have been wondering what add pack different oils have. I took data from VOA and PDS and created a list of SN oils.I know there are a lot more oils out there but these are the SN oil analysis I could get a hold of. I did use a UOA a few times so those numbers might be lower. This is so people can see which additives each oil uses regardless of the PPM, since there is some lab error in them (I also rounded a few to make them even 5 or 10 numbers, 1 or 2 ppm isn't going to matter). I Used on SN oils since this is the spec now. I had to abbreviate everything to make it fit ok in the code since I can't figure out how to attach a excel without making it http.

Code:
Brand Oil Weight Spec Moly Boron Sodium Ti Ca Mg Zinc Phos TBN Information source

AC Del. S/B 5w-30 SN 70 220 NA NA 2260 NA 880 760 6.7 Blackstone VOA

Castrol Edge 10w-40 SN 75 65 NA NA 750 1475 815 715 10.9 Blackstone VOA

Chevron Supreme 5w-30 SN 175 110 NA NA 2260 10 865 ? 8.7 PQI test

Havo. Con. 5w-30 SN NA 114 NA NA 2030 40 825 640 8.7 Blackstone VOA

Honda F/S 0w-20 SN 60 185 NA NA 1700 6 720 580 8 Blackstone VOA

Kendall GT1 -LT 10w-30 SN 30 206 NA 60 1522 5 697 508 8.1 Blackstone VOA

Lucas ? 5w-30 SN NA NA 340 NA 1375 5 755 635 6.8 Blackstone VOA

Lucas ? 10w-30 SN NA NA 350 Na 1425 5 770 670 6.9 Blackstone VOA

MC S/B 5w-20 SN 80 235 NA NA 2135 10 860 740 7.3 Blackstone VOA

Mobil Super 5w-30 SN NA NA 330 36 1685 15 720 630 7.7 Blackstone VOA

Mobil SS 5w-30 SN NA NA 340 26 1340 7 670 610 7.1 Blackstone VOA

Mobil 1 Mobil 1 0w-40 SN 75 220 NA NA 3000 20 1025 890 12.5 Blackstone VOA

Mobil 1 AFE 0w-20 SN 60 75 NA NA 845 630 550 540 8 Blackstone VOA

Mobil 1 EP 5w-30 SN 77 92 NA NA 1015 746 812 675 9.3 Blackstone VOA

Pennz PYB 5w-30 SN 243 87 NA NA 2265 10 880 710 ? Blackstone UOA

Pennz Plat. 5w-30 SN 67 4 NA NA 2569 7 790 647 ? Blackstone UOA

QS UD 5w-20 SN 60 NA NA NA 2450 11 770 720 9.2 Blackstone VOA

Valvo NGML/ML 5w-30 SN 140 NA 490 NA 2110 NA 830 760 8.7 Valvoline PDS

Valvo SP 5w-30 SN NA NA 490 NA 2110 NA 830 760 8.7 Valvoline PDS

Valvo NG/Con. 5w-30 SN NA NA 490 NA 1620 NA 830 760 7.5 Valvoline PDS

Valvo DB 5w-30 SN NA NA 490 NA 2110 NA 830 760 8.7 Valvoline PDS





NA= Not applicable (doesn't use)
AC Del. = AC Delco
Havo. = Havoline
Pennz= Pennzoil
MC= Motorcraft
QS= Quaker State
Valvo= Valvoline

Con. = Conventional
F/S = Full Synthetic
GT1-LT = Liquid Titanium
SS = Super Synthetic
AFE= Advanced Fuel Economy
EP = Extended Protection
S/B = Synthetic Blend
PYB = Pennzoil Yellow Bottle
Plat.= Platinum
UD=Ultimate Durability
NGML/ML = Nextgen/Maxlife (Since levels should be the same)
SP= Synpower
NG/Con. Nextgen/Conventional (Since levels should be the same)
DB= Durablend

Ti= Titanium
Ca = Calcium
Mg = Magnesium
Phos = Phosphorus

Enjoy!

 

[justinf89]

Nice, thanks a lot for the hard work.

 

[Hokiefyd]

Great, thank you for putting this together.

 

[BobsArmory]

Great job. THanks for your hard work.

 

[CMMeadAM]

That list took a lot of patience and a great deal of effort !

THANK YOU !!!

 

[Scorch]

Awesome chart, great work!

 

[mongo161]

Nice spreadsheet on some of the popular oils used on the forum. Thanks for your hard work. It is appreciated and will be a great source of information.

 

[synthetic_crazy]

845 for the calcium on Mobil 1's AFE 0W-20 seems low; from some of the UOAs posted here, if I remember correctly, they are in the 1700-2200 range. Also the calcium on Castrol Edge's is very low. An analysis on my Corolla when using Edge produced a calcium value in the low 3000 range. Could the new SN formula in fact be this low in regard to the calcium?

 

[jimbo64]

Thanks for doing that! I think I'd have gone blind or cross-eyed putting that together.

Is it just me, or does Pennzoil yellow bottle look pretty darn good? Like compared to the 10w-30 PP I just dumped out because my Chevy 5.3L engine hated it? My neighbor uses 5w-30 yellow bottle exclusively in his '01 Ford 4.6L 4x4 at 140k and it runs and sounds like new. Very interesting chart.

 

[spasm3]

Originally Posted By: jimbo64
Thanks for doing that! I think I'd have gone blind or cross-eyed putting that together.

Is it just me, or does Pennzoil yellow bottle look pretty darn good? Like compared to the 10w-30 PP I just dumped out because my Chevy 5.3L engine hated it? My neighbor uses 5w-30 yellow bottle exclusively in his '01 Ford 4.6L 4x4 at 140k and it runs and sounds like new. Very interesting chart.


I thought the same thing! look at the moly and the zinc.

 

[volk06]

Originally Posted By: synthetic_crazy
845 for the calcium on Mobil 1's AFE 0W-20 seems low; from some of the UOAs posted here, if I remember correctly, they are in the 1700-2200 range. Also the calcium on Castrol Edge's is very low. An analysis on my Corolla when using Edge produced a calcium value in the low 3000 range. Could the new SN formula in fact be this low in regard to the calcium?


That was the SM and old versions. The SN Mobil 1 oils are all now a calcium/magnesium combo. The all cut the calcium way down and increased the magnesium A LOT to help with TBN retention.

 

[jimbo64]

Originally Posted By: spasm3
Originally Posted By: jimbo64
Thanks for doing that! I think I'd have gone blind or cross-eyed putting that together.

Is it just me, or does Pennzoil yellow bottle look pretty darn good? Like compared to the 10w-30 PP I just dumped out because my Chevy 5.3L engine hated it? My neighbor uses 5w-30 yellow bottle exclusively in his '01 Ford 4.6L 4x4 at 140k and it runs and sounds like new. Very interesting chart.


I thought the same thing! look at the moly and the zinc.


Exactly! I couldn't believe the moly content. Isn't moly on the pricey side? Thought I read that somewhere...probably here. And the zinc is pretty much right with the rest of them for emission system non-failures. Very impressive.

 

[volk06]

Originally Posted By: spasm3

Thanks for doing that! I think I'd have gone blind or cross-eyed putting that together.



I used colors on excel to make it a lot easier to read! Too bad we can just upload files onto here. Made some very interesting charts as well.

 

[volk06]

Originally Posted By: spasm3
Originally Posted By: jimbo64
Thanks for doing that! I think I'd have gone blind or cross-eyed putting that together.

Is it just me, or does Pennzoil yellow bottle look pretty darn good? Like compared to the 10w-30 PP I just dumped out because my Chevy 5.3L engine hated it? My neighbor uses 5w-30 yellow bottle exclusively in his '01 Ford 4.6L 4x4 at 140k and it runs and sounds like new. Very interesting chart.


I thought the same thing! look at the moly and the zinc.


Also factor in that the only source for PYB and PP I had was a UOA, there is probably some boron depletion and left overs from previous oil fills.

 

[volk06]

Thanks guys, only took a few hours to do!

 

[Lead Shoes]

Wow that's nice, this should be made a sticky and updated regularly

 

[mechtech2]

Thanks for the time and effort.
PYB always looks good!

 

[ltslimjim]

Awesome layout. I like the direction this could go.

 

[volk06]

There so much more I can/have done but can't upload it. It makes for some very interesting charts! Just need all the rest of the castrol, pennzoil, quaker state, and mobili VOA but theres a lot of oils right there to get tested

 

[Hokiefyd]

Will add packs be relatively consistent across the most popular grades? For example, can I assume that PYB in 5W-20 will have about the same add pack as PYB in 5W-30?