'99 Mazda Protege, Zerex G-05 ok?

[rustypigeon]

Hey gang. I just bought a 99 Mazda Protege. I would like to flush all the fluids. I have always liked Zerex G-05 for my older Toyota. Can I use Zerex G-05 in my Mazda? I know Zerex says to use Dex-Cool for 99 Mazdas, but i've heard that there are issues with Dex Cool for many cars.

It is currently filled with a dark green fluid. It looks quite clean, but I don't know what kind or how long it has been in there.

I know many say that silicates are bad for Japaniese cars, but I have never had an issue running silicate coolants in older Toyotas.

 

[lewdwig]

I'd use the G-05 instead of the Dex-Cool.

 

[rustypigeon]

Does anyone know what color coolant Mazda used in '99? Is the green coolant in there now original maybe?

 

[Dan55]

What does it say in the owners manual?

 

[rustypigeon]

Originally Posted By: Dan55
What does it say in the owners manual?


Don't have one yet. Ordered one on ebay.

 

[bdcardinal]

should be green in there from the factory.

 

[qship1996]

Peak Global Lifetime would be an excellent choice.

 

[rustypigeon]

I'm thinking that the coolant is original coolant from '99. Is Mazda coolant a phosphate coolant like Toyota? I usually have a bottle of red Toyota long life for my wifes car. Would that be a better choice than G-05?

 

[Dan55]

Why dont you use the OE Mazda green I think it is still availabile, and comes as a concentrate.

 

[rustypigeon]

I am going to the Mazda dealer tommorow to pick up some parts, I am going to see if the coolant is available.

 

[rustypigeon]

Well, when I went to the dealer (which is also a Chysler dealer) I asked them what they use for a 99 Mazda. The guy pulled a chart, but the chart only went back to 2000. He then went back to ask a tech, and the tech said they used Chysler green coolant for Mazdas. I asked to look at a bottle of their Chysler coolant and sure enough, it contained silicates.

They did have an old dusty bottle of Mazda Premium Gold coolant. But it had a warning on the back not to mix it with green or orange coolant. I decided not to get it since I am not sure which type coolant is in my car right now, but it is green.

 

[ponderosaTX]

I don't have any direct information on the OEM coolant in 1999 Mazdas but I doubt it contained silicates since CCI, the coolant supplier for Mazda, was already producing silicate-free, first generation P-OAT coolants for Japanese manufacturers by the early 90's. I do know that the coolant in my 1996 Acura Integra was silicate-free. I also know that the MSDS for Mazda Long Life Coolant (a first generation P-OAT coolant developed and manufactured by CCI) was originally issued on 01/01/1992.

I recommend using a first or second generation P-OAT coolant in 1999 Mazdas: OEM coolant from Mazda, Honda, Toyota, or Nissan; Zerex Asian Vehicle coolant; or Motorcraft Specialty Green Engine Coolant.

 

[rustypigeon]

Well, I checked with all the dealers and none of them have a P-OAT that is concentrated. I called Mazda, Ford and Toyota. They all only have the 55% dilute. It seems all the Japanese car companies are now supplying pre-mix coolants.

I'd like to get the concentrated so I can do a distilled water flush, then top off with a bottle of 100%. Like I said before, I don't know how long this coolant has been in the car, or what kind it is.

I guess if I want to do a complete flush, G-05 is my only option. It is the only concentrated coolant that I can find locally.

Does anyone know who makes a 100% P-OAT coolant that is commonly availible?

 

[bdcardinal]

whats wrong with using 0000-77-501e-02 coolant that is specified by Mazda? its not a premix, i have tons in stock, as should any Mazda dealer.

 

[rustypigeon]

I'll call some other dealers tommorow. The one I talked to last week said they didn't carry it and that I would have to order a 6 gallon case if I wanted any.

 

[bdcardinal]

ya with Mazda you have to order fluids in case quantities, plus it ships from Excelda and with my dealer can take over a week to get. they can look up other dealers inventories real easy and tell that dealer to have one on the counter waiting for you. I do that all the time.

 

[rustypigeon]

Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
they can look up other dealers inventories real easy and tell that dealer to have one on the counter waiting for you. I do that all the time.


Thanks. I was able to have the dealer find another local dealer with some in stock. I'll pick up a couple gallons later this week.