$85k new electric vehicle bricks in the snow!

Can anybody make out the Rivian's tires? I can only read "All Terrain" which are typically terrible in snow.
 
Although unrelated, our Gulfstream G600‘s electrical system just “bricked” yesterday. Holy mother of god, it has been a battle!

The system is exceedingly complex and so far 4 computers are being replaced.

Not sure of the cause, but worked fine in flight, with just a blue (advisory) fault message. But once on the ground, went into the Lucas-electric mode of unrecoverable total failure

it should come as no surprise the controlling computers are from England 😂
It failed safe. It very well may be that it detected a problem in flight and redundancy allowed it to properly perform safely. But upon detecting the problem did not rely on the operator to preemptively fix the problem before the redundancy which was then the only thing still working had a chance to fail because of continued use for additional flights. It was smart enough in the programming to wait until the aircraft was on the ground and could safely shut down to the point where it had to be serviced so that it was no longer relying on the backup system. Because if the backup system was the only thing left and that failed then it would not be operating properly while in flight. So not only did it fail safe while in flight and continue to operate it was programmed to be smart enough to ensure that it was properly repaired and prevent continued use with only the backup. If this is the case whoever designed the system did a very good job.
 
Although unrelated, our Gulfstream G600‘s electrical system just “bricked” yesterday. Holy mother of god, it has been a battle!

The system is exceedingly complex and so far 4 computers are being replaced.

Not sure of the cause, but worked fine in flight, with just a blue (advisory) fault message. But once on the ground, went into the Lucas-electric mode of unrecoverable total failure

it should come as no surprise the controlling computers are from England 😂
How does the 600 compare to the 650/650ER?
 
It failed safe. It very well may be that it detected a problem in flight and redundancy allowed it to properly perform safely. But upon detecting the problem did not rely on the operator to preemptively fix the problem before the redundancy which was then the only thing still working had a chance to fail because of continued use for additional flights. It was smart enough in the programming to wait until the aircraft was on the ground and could safely shut down to the point where it had to be serviced so that it was no longer relying on the backup system. Because if the backup system was the only thing left and that failed then it would not be operating properly while in flight. So not only did it fail safe while in flight and continue to operate it was programmed to be smart enough to ensure that it was properly repaired and prevent continued use with only the backup. If this is the case whoever designed the system did a very good job.

That's all relative. Good in the sense that it didn't brick in the sky - sure. I would suggest designing it in a way that avoids failure would be preferable.
 
What a fiasco...just like every EV cars. In my country there problems with charging cables freezing , damage battery pack from corrosion and dents...
 
Rivian stock is down from $57 to $14 in 1 year, that's a whopping 75% crash. I interpret that as a floundering company unable to produce, deliver good products to justify the costs, and with deep systemic problems.
Regardless if the company delivers or not, might be worth investing at these lows just to ride the meme power when the stock market eventually goes up in a year or two.

Unless these vehicles have some major explosive recall I think Rivian will ride under the radar as it's not much of a threat as Tesla poses so they are getting all the attention and hate by the big 3.
 
Not sure of the cause, but worked fine in flight, with just a blue (advisory) fault message. But once on the ground, went into the Lucas-electric mode of unrecoverable total failure
Will the manufacturer conduct some type of analysis to see what went wrong? Maybe a damaged wire harness or some manufacturing glitch that could cause this to happen again?
 
In the ditch:
1. Pick up trucks.
2. JEEP’s.
3. Subaru.

Every single snow storm.
Sorry, I should have known some need explanation.
Speaking of "need explanation"... observations suffer from the obvious logical fallacy of illusory or false correlations. Such fallacy often explain superstitions, racism, sexism, and other nonsense conclusions.

Here, you claim to observe trucks/jeeps/subarus are worse in the snow. When it snows, people with vehicles incapable of handling it, leave those at home, or get stuck in the driveway, or stay at home altogether, walk, take public transit, etc. Naturally, a higher ratio % of AWD and 4x4 are on the road at those times, which tend to be truck platforms and subarus. So if you perceive "more trucks, jeeps, and Subarus" are in ditches, naturally it is because of user error and disproportionate representation of vehicles on the road.

It is entertaining when people make wildly unsupported observations and post them as facts, however.
 
For the record the snow is to the center of the wheels front and back. If 30" tires that's 15" of snow and the people are standing on top not sinking in. Very likely higher before the recovery started. So the snow is not powder and it was deeper. At least try be observant. There's no reason for it to be any less capable than any other midsize SUV in these conditions unless the 4wd system is faulty along with being an EV.

And for the record this is NOT 2 feet of snow. Closer to 8 inches.

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Although unrelated, our Gulfstream G600‘s electrical system just “bricked” yesterday. Holy mother of god, it has been a battle!

The system is exceedingly complex and so far 4 computers are being replaced.

Not sure of the cause, but worked fine in flight, with just a blue (advisory) fault message. But once on the ground, went into the Lucas-electric mode of unrecoverable total failure

it should come as no surprise the controlling computers are from England 😂
It failed safe. It very well may be that it detected a problem in flight and redundancy allowed it to properly perform safely. But upon detecting the problem did not rely on the operator to preemptively fix the problem before the redundancy which was then the only thing still working had a chance to fail because of continued use for additional flights. It was smart enough in the programming to wait until the aircraft was on the ground and could safely shut down to the point where it had to be serviced so that it was no longer relying on the backup system. Because if the backup system was the only thing left and that failed then it would not be operating properly while in flight. So not only did it fail safe while in flight and continue to operate it was programmed to be smart enough to ensure that it was properly repaired and prevent it continue use with only the backup. If this is the case whoever designed the system did a very good job
Will the manufacturer conduct some type of analysis to see what went wrong? Maybe a damaged wire harness or some manufacturing glitch that could cause this to

Will the manufacturer conduct some type of analysis to see what went wrong? Maybe a damaged wire harness or some manufacturing glitch that could cause this to happen again?
One of the best electronic Engineers I ever worked with one day commented that if you think about the number of transistors and other components that are in today's computers statistically speaking it's amazing that they operate as long as they do without breaking down. And he knew all about the redundancy of error codes for memory systems and anything else associated with how a computer worked.
 
For the record the snow is to the center of the wheels front and back. If 30" tires that's 15" of snow and the people are standing on top not sinking in. Very likely higher before the recovery started.
My bad, not 8" but 15" of snow. LOL. I can observe that the small statured person standing next to it, apparently a female wearing tall boots. From the center to the top half of the presumably 20" metal wheel, plus a few inches of tire would be about 15". Not 2.5' (30") of snow. They're standing on about 1 foot of snowpack. 8", 15" 24" irrelevant, my ICE truck would go thru that without any real effort. More importantly it's not even touching the undercarriage to the extent of stopping it. And best of all, the thing died and stranded them requiring not just being pulled out, but flatbedded for $2100 hundreds of miles to be fixed. Once again, the nanny-state tech stranded them.

But people just insist on these overpriced, totally unreliable, extremely complex machines for status.
 
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