70-80% PAO

[yowps3]

The oil currently in my car since April 2020 is made from approx. 70% PAO, 25% modern additive, 5% esters

I'm usually a 6 months OCI guy, but in theory at least should oil with the above formulation better maintain viscosity, resist oxidation for longer OCI?

Car is new purchased in May 2019 and the first change was in April 2020 with the above oil at 2300km.
The mileage of car is now 5100km
The vehicle is seldom driven, however most of the mileage is long distance highway.

 

[sloinker]

Curious as to the brand of this oil. That isn't much mileage for that type of oil. I'm not sure what the general consensus would be for age of the oil. What are the driving conditions and weather environment for the vehicle?

 

[SR5]

OP with that low mileage you should be fine. Do you have access to a spec sheet with the starting TBN ?

Me, I would go at least 10,000 KM (6200 miles) and even then it would probably be changing early. A good synthetic should last 10,000 miles (16,000km). You live in Australia and do long drives, so there is no cold climate, short trip, water condensation issues to worry about. My ”cold start” is already 30C (86F) and I can get it to scalding hot, just going to the shops and back.

Happy Australia Day !

 

[SR5]

Curious as to the brand of this oil.

Probably Penrite, they make a few 100% PAO & Ester oils. Good stuff.

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

The oil currently in my car since April 2020 is made from approx. 70% PAO, 25% modern additive, 5% esters

I'm usually a 6 months OCI guy, but in theory at least should oil with the above formulation better maintain viscosity, resist oxidation for longer OCI?

Car is new purchased in May 2019 and the first change was in April 2020 with the above oil at 2300km.
The mileage of car is now 5100km
The vehicle is seldom driven, however most of the mileage is long distance highway.

Just who makes that oil and how proud of it are they?

 

[adams355]

Just who makes that oil and how proud of it are they?

100% PAO ESTER FULL SYNTHETIC | Penrite Oil

Check out our 100% PAO ESTER Full Synthetic products

www.penriteoil.com.au

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

100% PAO ESTER FULL SYNTHETIC | Penrite Oil

Check out our 100% PAO ESTER Full Synthetic products

www.penriteoil.com.au

When's your next sale and rebate?

 

[adams355]

When's your next sale and rebate?

Haha not very often for the top shelf. We pay a lot for good oil in Australia. That oil is about 80 AUD for a touch over 5 quarts. It use to be over 100 AUD but they have some competition now.

 

[PimTac]

When's your next sale and rebate?

I would imagine the shipping charges will be steep.

 

[RDY4WAR]

I'm not a fan of majority PAO oils in daily commuters. Given the conditions seen in normal use, a group III oil will have better additive response and last about as long. The only exception to this would be extreme cold starts.

 

[double vanos]

“I'm not a fan of majority PAO oils in daily commuters. Given the conditions seen in normal use, a group III oil will have better additive response and last about as long. The only exception to this would be extreme cold starts.”

Nailed it!

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

I would imagine the shipping charges will be steep.

LOL PimTac you mean we can't Amazoom it on Prime?

 

[OVERKILL]

I'm not a fan of majority PAO oils in daily commuters. Given the conditions seen in normal use, a group III oil will have better additive response and last about as long. The only exception to this would be extreme cold starts.

I note it interesting that Mobil doesn't seem bothered with going that route (EP 0w-20, AP 0w-20) where it makes sense. At the end of the day M1 0w-40 probably works just as well as Ravenol SSL 0w-40 for most of my driving, save perhaps if we get a -30 snap or something but I fully admit to having a bit of a bias toward PAO content, lol.

 

[SR5]

I'm not a fan of majority PAO oils in daily commuters. Given the conditions seen in normal use, a group III oil will have better additive response and last about as long. The only exception to this would be extreme cold starts.

In my motorcycle, which I regularly introduced to red line, I ran the Penrite 10-Tenths Racing 10W40, 1680 ppm Zinc, 630 ppm Boron, 100% PAO & Ester, 9.8 TBN, shear stable.

However for my daily commute in my car, I run Castrol Edge 5W30 A3/B4 full synthetic. Like you said a good Group III, and regularly on sale. Same outcome but I save a bit of coin. Nothing wrong with the Penrite 10-Tenths, but I no longer push it hard enough to justify the expense.

We also get a Castrol Magnatec 5W30 A3/B4 full synthetic, which is a great bang-for-your-buck oil.

No such thing as extreme cold starts in Australia.

 

[yowps3]

Curious as to the brand of this oil. That isn't much mileage for that type of oil. I'm not sure what the general consensus would be for age of the oil. What are the driving conditions and weather environment for the vehicle?

Kixx - All Ways with You

Kixx is the lubricant brand of the global petrochemical company, GS Caltex. Explore Kixx's range of engine oils, industrial lubricants and more.

www.kixxoil.com

 

[OVERKILL]

Kixx - All Ways with You

Kixx is the lubricant brand of the global petrochemical company, GS Caltex. Explore Kixx's range of engine oils, industrial lubricants and more.

www.kixxoil.com

Ahhhh, we discussed that oil on here before.

 

[adams355]

Kixx - All Ways with You

Kixx is the lubricant brand of the global petrochemical company, GS Caltex. Explore Kixx's range of engine oils, industrial lubricants and more.

www.kixxoil.com

How much is the Kixx @yowps3 I have seen some good and bad reviews.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Rebates are becoming the biggest joke. They are getting to where they are only valid at these obscenely obscure stores that are almost nonexistent, and if you do stumble upon one, they probably charge $10+ a quart.

I went into Autozone last week killing a few minutes, and Castrol Edge was $10.99 a quart there!!

 

[SR5]

Ahhhh, we discussed that oil on here before.

Yes, a few times, it’s made in Korea and sold at a good price. Not much is known about it, at least on BITOG

Kixx 100% PAO 5w40

Hi Folks, Anybody know this Korean motor oil? I can get it here for quite a good price (About the same as a semi). The site (http://www.gscaltex.com/eng/product/product_view.aspx?DM=0&ai=20&cp=1&cc=14&uc=1) and a brochure says 100% PAO. An MSDS I found somewhere says "SEVERELY HYDROTREATED...

bobistheoilguy.com

Kixx PAO 0w30 VOA

40c - 65.43 100c - 11.49 VI - 172 TBN - 8.1 Noack - 7.8% P - 774 Zn - 882 Boron - 68 Ca - 1,835 Oxidation - 34 (ester) https://www.kixxoil.com/product/productview?pdtCode=EN00300&app=

bobistheoilguy.com

Feedback on Kixx

A little background here. I'm an American expat living in Kyrgyzstan. I own and run a car rental company here. We have been using Total full synthetic 5/30 and 5/40 for various vehicles (Ford Ranger, UAZ Patriot, etc). Those cars serviced with Total are frequently developing engine problems...

bobistheoilguy.com

OP, what car are we talking about?

 

[SR5]

How much is the Kixx @yowps3 I have seen some good and bad reviews.

That’s the question, how much ? And do you trust it ?

If it is what they say it is, then it’s probably a good oil. They just have no history or investment in the local market, which increases the risk to the consumer as they don’t have a name to protect.

I was at Bunnings the other day, and they had 5L jugs of Valvoline SynPower 5W40 and 5W30 full synthetic for $33 each. That’s a very good price in Australia and this appears to be a regular price, not a sale price.

• SAE 5W-40, API SN/CF, ACEA A3/B3, ACEA B4, MB 229.3, GM-LL-B-025, VW 502.00, VW 505.00, RENAULT RN710, RN700

• SAE 5W-30, API SN PLUS, API SN, Resource Conserving, ILSAC GF-5, Ford WSS-M2C946-B1, GM dexos1™ GEN 2 APPROVED (Lic No. D10195GL103)

Hard to go past those two, and Valvoline has a name to protect and a big history in the game.